Shadows in the Desert.

Jan 03, 2011 12:56



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immlass January 3 2011, 19:03:20 UTC
You had me at hello!

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ratmmjess January 3 2011, 20:09:21 UTC
Of *course* you're a Kool Kid! Who says otherwise? I'll murdalize da bum!

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tfbretz January 3 2011, 20:54:33 UTC
I actually knew of the Alans in Britain, but not much detail. Now, I need to know more about the Gok!

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richardthinks January 3 2011, 20:56:14 UTC
Of course you know V V Barthol'd's magisterial "Turkestan down to the Mongol invasion"? Full of delightful incident and offhand commentary.

The 7 volume UNESCO history of Central Asia is also not bad, but sounds less fun than your book. Firdawsi's always worth reading, but if you're interested in these matters the Baburnameh is just incredible, now retranslated by I think McChesney.

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ratmmjess January 4 2011, 13:58:58 UTC
I, um, did not, but I've ILLed it now and am looking forward to it. Thanks for the pointer!

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princeofcairo January 3 2011, 21:10:09 UTC
Littleton and Malcor are, to put it gently, not to be entirely relied upon. But yes, they are fun with a capital F-N.

(And if you're scoring at home, I didn't know about the Chionites, Kidarites, or Gok.)

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ratmmjess January 3 2011, 21:22:03 UTC
I figured as much.

"Special pleading" isn't quite the right term for the book--I know it has a specific meaning as a logical fallacy, and what I was looking for was a pithy way of describing the tendency to claim that subject X, when written about by writer Y, is actually the source of A, B, C, D, and E, despite A-E being widely separated in time and space--so the Persians are the source of Arthurian myth--that sort of thing.

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womzilla January 4 2011, 04:00:45 UTC
"Jumping at similarities".

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womzilla January 4 2011, 04:03:42 UTC
Or "jumping to connections".

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