No, I really hate the idea, Brendon.

May 26, 2009 14:15

You know it, the brain invasion thing all over again ( Read more... )

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fruityahren May 26 2009, 12:52:09 UTC
You should just ask him if he even has a dick, let alone a nine inch one.

Furthermore, I generally write in first person. It works epically well with characters with over the top personalities.

When I say I generaly write in first person, I mean it's what I naturally write in, and I have to make the conscious decision to write in third person.

Second person however... is completely lost on me.

And if the muse requests, the muse gets. right?

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 13:27:59 UTC
He's a virual online hooker, so he's got a nine inch cock for definite, they all do. Trufax.

Thing is, I used to only write first. For ages. Until I discovered it really was something a lot of people avoided like the plague. But yeah, there's just so much possibility for running commentary and random bullshit and going off on tangents, so I kinda still like it.

Never wrote second, never even come across it except in really worryingly bad bad!fic.

Also, the muse is a volatile, manipulative bitch, a traitor and all sorts of things, but yeah. Bottom line is she rules.

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fruityahren May 26 2009, 13:32:39 UTC
I wish I was a virual online hooker. I need penis reduction surgery bad!

Yeah, I often force myself to write third. But I struggle to get ANY emotional content into third. So I tend to prefer first.

Just let him go with it for a bit, and if it's half good, you can put it up on your private journal and just get a couple of opinions. I've never had anyone complain about my first person pieces. Then again, I think most of them were from characters that people weren't familiar with, so they didn't feel the need to get offended.

Second person only ever seems to appear in really terrible bad!fic. I once considered using it, just to see if it could ever work in my genre... but then I realised I'm not at the level where you can experiment with horribly bad writing technique. lol

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siubhlach May 26 2009, 12:55:05 UTC
*laughs* You're far nicer to your characters than me. That conversation in my head would go something like this:

Brendon: I totally think this story should be in first per-
Me: No!
Brendon: Hey, hear me out! I have reasons!
Me: Don't care. The answer is no.
Brendon: But it's my story ( ... )

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 13:23:48 UTC
No, they never listen. The part where I go "this conversation is over", they huff and refuse to play, just sitting there in my head innocently whistling to themselves and waiting for me to come back and concede defeat.

Yeah, good point about the fan fiction, actually. I'd never thought about that at all. Hm. And I really mean... hhhhmmmm. The thing is, I actually really, really like his voice. It's a lot more disjointed then my usual 3rd (and hell, I didn't even think that was possible) and it's so him. Not as in the actual person Brendon Urie, obviously, but as in the person you get glimpses of in the first part of the story. So maybe I can get away with it cause he is, in a sense, already an established fictional character? Yeah, dunno. I'll let him run with it for a couple of pages and see what happens. If nothing else, we're gonna get to know each other better, so it all helps.

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siubhlach May 26 2009, 17:21:40 UTC
Oh, they do that to me too. But there are always other boys lurking in the background waiting for their turn in the limelight and they tend to be in like a shot. For example, at the moment, Spencer, Lord Smith is waiting most impatiently for evil!Jared to go away so that he can explain to me exactly how his society works and just why it is that he owns Ryan and why he doesn't want to give him up (Ryan on the other hand is waiting patiently; he's a slave, he understands waiting :D ( ... )

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 22:34:33 UTC
Spencer, fucking fight for it. That pretty much sums up my thoughts, cause... yeah. The whole boys in cages thing kills me everytime. Eventually, I shall get over myself and also write one, but I'm still recovering from the genius that was shackles and chains. That story did things to me. But yeah, slave-fic. Yummy.

Then again, evil Jared's cool. Pretty much, whatever the next thing you post, I shall be flailing indecently.

Losing readership? Matter? To me? Um. No, not at all. Cause I'm not actually an utter comment whore or anything. Hrm. That said, I'll see how it plays. If I can't get consensus in my head, I'll throw a snippet out there and ask more annoying pointless questions, cause that's fun too. :)

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analogized May 26 2009, 14:00:39 UTC
Subtle and sneaky redirect: Why don't you get Spencer/Ryan/Jon/Shane/all of them to suck it for you?

*shifty eyes* ..... Yeah. /o\

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 22:23:04 UTC
That's the thing, I figure being a hooker, he shouldn't really have the urge, right? Or maybe... yeah, great. There's porn happening in my head. Always nice. :)

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silkandwhispers May 26 2009, 21:39:51 UTC
So here's my thoughts:

My characters all live in a condo on abeach in some far off mystical place in my head. I callit The Condo. This is also where I lose my keys, my jewelry, and anything else at all important. The Condo is all The Vortex of Doom.

But when characters hang around The Condo, they usually have something pretty important to say. I wrote first person for the longest time, because that's what my characters wanted. I switched to third only recently because of SpencerSmith, who hijacks my stories more foten than not.

So go ahead and give in. If you don't like it, gag Brendon while you rewrite it in third. And while you're at it, send him down to The Condo.

:D

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 22:27:55 UTC
Exactly like that. Well, since I'm a bit of a tight-ass, they get boxes instead of a condo. Different looking boxes, no less.

The Panic one has always been a bit on the sparkly side, pretty rhinestones and all that jazz, while MCR, for example, live in a gray rotting cardboard thing.

When I throw a prompt or idea into one of the boxes, people do various things, trying to clamber out or waving their arms wildly or just blankly staring at each other. It's always great fun to watch, but yeah, on the whole, there isn't much choice but to roll with it.

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awakelunafraid May 26 2009, 22:01:17 UTC
I love your head. These posts always make me laugh ( ... )

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awakelunafraid May 26 2009, 22:04:58 UTC
I totally forgot I wanted to piggyback on an earlier comment about not writing third because you're not them.
You're writing an au, the reason I love bandom is that it's having a bunch of stock characters at your fingertips. Emotionally retarded hermit? Check Spastic characteristic but sometimes dark and moody rebellious teenager? Check.
You're just taking these generally accepted ideas of these people and manipulating them to fit your plot ideas. They become your characters. I don't see writing first person as a problem with rps as long as you're not writing something that's meant to be a direct translation of their lives. Even then, it could go either way, creative license and all.

/theory. Sorry. I should stop rambling on.

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raven29121982 May 26 2009, 22:21:23 UTC
Bren and I are still fighting at the moment, but I know usually, I'll eventually have things in all sorts of perspective and only one of them really works and from then on in, it's pretty easy.

Also, no need for impatience, cause I already posted part one. The monster's called North of the City Verse, the first part's The role of the hero in antiquity. Follow the lights on that Masterpost and you shall find it. Hope you like!

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