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[real_idealist]

Ok, so Im usually pretty open and understanding about most things...But Ive been having a really hard time with suicide jokes and references. Like some of the lj icons I look at in communities...the one I hate the most is "its down the block not across the street, kids, get it right" or a picture of a gun and "if youre going to do it, get it right

Comments

[nightshade057]

I find both "dead baby jokes" and suicide jokes repulsive. Always have.

[noctrnalwolf]

I think the point those icons is trying to make is that people overly romanticize their problems and make depression such an essential part of their identity like "I am black" or "I am female." just do an interest search on depression or suicide and you'll see what I'm talking about. it's not making fun about people who try to kill themselves so much as it's making fun of the culture that sees it as some huge, tragic literary action instead of what it really is.

[real_idealist]

Yea...I was thinking that as well. Cause of all the icons Ive seen that are like like...come on. But those came from mostly from the insensitive side, what I would call the anti-emos. So, I dont know.

[noctrnalwolf]

I'd have to disagree and say I see a whoooooole lot more from people who sincerely think depression and suicide are, not cool, but interesting or something. like "look, I have so many problems, look at me." and the people who are like that either aren't the people with sincere problems or their problems get all muddied in how they'd like people to see them. In proportion, I've seen a lot less people who were acting in reaction to that and I think the anti-emo people have a good point.

[real_idealist]

Well, I definately know what you are talking about when you say people who think its interesting and use it as a way to get attention. And, I dont know, it could be from them. I guess they just seemed too harsh, instead of tradically poetic.

[real_idealist]

I do laugh about it. More in the way when people say something like "I could just kill myself" and I say something like "oh wait...I already tried that" But this is just different...I would never joke about advocating it. This did not seem lighthearted at all. More like they were sick of the whining or something

[noctrnalwolf]

maybe this is on a tangent, but I think it's so much more blurry than just people who genuinely have a problem and people who want attention. there are all sorts of shades in between regarding people who have a legitimate problem but whore said problem. and the notion of a chemical imbalance you're completely helpless against is pretty debatable for a huge amount of reasons and has more to do with faith that that's the problem than anything.