Religion of opposition

Jan 15, 2009 14:20

I had a discussion the other day regarding the nature of religion from a philosophical standpoint.  Religion in this case was defined as a belief that something was wrong with the world, or humanity, and that a solution is required.  The solution was defined as the religious ultimate.

That is to say for example that for catholics the problem with ( Read more... )

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laviemoderne January 15 2009, 21:49:53 UTC
That pisses me off too. I believe in actual knowledge over fairy tales. I believe in science. I've been told that because I believe in science that it is therefor my religion. I find that notion that belief in something, anything constitutes that belief as a religion to be utterly preposterous. I am also very offended by the idea that any type of moral is derived from religion. God said thou shalt not kill so that moral aspect is clearly from religion. Sheepish mortals clearly couldn't have come to the conclusion that murding each other was a bad thing with out being spoonfed the idea in a religious context. BAH HUMBUG!
Religion has caused more pain and suffering in this world then anything else and should be snuffed out of existance.

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redwoodpecker January 15 2009, 21:55:04 UTC
Wow, first of all, you apparently didn't read the blog, I didn't say anything about morality being derived from religion, I agree with you completely.

However, atheism is not science. Science is about objectivity and evidence., God is unfalsifiable. There's no more evidence for the non existence of god than there is for his existence, so the scientific answer is that there is no clear answer.

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laviemoderne January 16 2009, 01:20:57 UTC
No, I read it and understood it. I'm just reacting to my experiences with similar things in response mostly to, "... would sometimes be presented with the argument that Atheism is a religion as well, which I found to be profoundly stupid. It would in fact, and I know this seems out of character, profoundly piss me off." I wasn't infering that atheism is a science or related to science, I was just using it as an example to cite the abusirdity, IMO, such arguements: I believe in rational thinking, I belive that science is rational, and I believe that science is a better way to explain things than religion. SOME people would have tried to argue to me that because I belive in science that because I am prescribing to a "belief system" that it is more or less a substitute for or perhaps a de facto religion. Science=religion=PREPOSTEROUS! That got me thinking about other stupid arguements that I've gotten into with religious people that believe that all morality and what not comes from religion and that with out religion we couldn't have ( ... )

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