paul atreides is my hero....

Oct 30, 2005 15:16

fremen=desert ninjas

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cadillacl3ubble October 30 2005, 23:49:15 UTC
I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. but it involves ninjas. and that makes me happy.

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reldur October 31 2005, 00:25:24 UTC
frank herbert

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mirroringworld October 31 2005, 02:14:42 UTC
Fremen are not "desert ninjas." Fremen are FREMEN. The whole fucking symbolism of them is that they are purely and essentially themselves (original Dune.) As they move into the beaureaucracy of Paul Atreides' empire (Dune Messiah, Children of Dune) and lose that desert purity, they start to fall apart, becoming a corrupt and decadence race, outwardly idolizing their desert origins while inwardly despising them (God Emperor of Dune.) With the collapse of the Arrakis-based empires and the re-desertification of the planet, the Fremen are forced back out onto the edges again--and gain back the wholeness of their ancestors (Heretics of Dune.)

In summary--Fremen are meant to be Fremen and nothing else.

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reldur October 31 2005, 03:35:51 UTC
yes, but as themselves...they are desert ninjas.

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