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still__ill May 18 2005, 05:21:03 UTC
this isn't directed towards you, but towards the person who wrote it - go cry about it. i wish anyone who ever bitched about them (again, not directed at you) would know what actually goes on behind the scenes of their hamburger. when you consider something to be murder, you tend to be quite passionate!

some of the things listed are inexcusable, but not horrifying. i've heard of worse deeds.

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renthead4225 May 18 2005, 19:43:40 UTC
I agree with you about the go cry about it thing. But that goes for both sides. I don't like when people are millitant about this issue on either side.

I wasn't going to post it until I saw that last one (number 7). I just thought that was rediculous.

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still__ill May 18 2005, 20:42:48 UTC
true, and you're right. the last one is terrible.

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crystalwatch May 18 2005, 11:01:37 UTC
I think Martin just posted this to be humurous. No offense, but it really bothers me when people get more defensive over the lives of animals than they do over the lives of human beings. I've found it very prevelant among animal activists that they are Pro-Choice as well, not all, but a lot. But God forbid an animal is killed, or someone eats a fucking egg, it's wrong. But it can be okay for someone to kill a human and then use it for medical research(which, I actually am not fully adverse to). But anyways, I think many people that are animal activists are hypocrites, and a lot them just need to be realistic. I mean, holy crap, if there can be a cure for cancer found using animal research, and you are adverse to that, what the hell is wrong with you?!

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still__ill May 18 2005, 20:46:11 UTC
well, you must understand that it's not so much that people kill the animals so much as they do it in the most torturous ways possible. if you ever see a video somewhere that shows how a cow is actually treated and then killed to make beef, then you'll see exactly what they mean. it's beyond inhumane. they don't get as defensive over the lives of human beings because it's not often that you see human beings treated anywhere *near* the way animals used for meat/dairy are.

it's not the killing (though killing animals for our culinary tastes is considered quite pointless by some, therefore worse) so much as it is.. the way the killing is done.

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_bbbrittany May 18 2005, 22:21:36 UTC
well, all killing is inhumane no matter the way,
but things are killed regardless.
it'd be far more benficial for humans
to survive off the land
rather than transfering it to the animals,
BUT, that will never change.
and PETA just shows the worst cast scenarios.
i've seen all of the videos.
that does not occur at every single slaughter house,
it just shows the awful things that happen places, MAYBE.
and plus, a lot of the films were done
in other countries.
i am a vegetarian,
so i'm not bashing beliefs, trust me.
but PETA can be a little bit whacko,
and i think martin was just trying to make that point.
PETA does good,
but it also can take it too far.

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still__ill May 19 2005, 00:16:48 UTC
"it just shows the awful thigs that happen places, MAYBE ( ... )

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_bbbrittany May 18 2005, 20:25:59 UTC
I believe in animal rights,
very strongly.
i think it'd be beneficial for americans not to rely
on animals for food supply,
BUT, thought PETA can be a good activist group,
pretty much all groups of the sort,
are over the edge.
any group that is adament about any belief,
usually takes it to far.
i do believe PETA can be such a joke
i mean, laying naked on sidewalks covered in blood for a protest,
wow.
but eh, who am i to knock anyone passionate in beliefs.
most people are ridiculous about something!
this is why i'd never join an organization such as PETA.
but i doubt the entire organization as a whole
supports things such as
stalking children,
but that is pretty funny [yet scary].

btw, none of this was negative energy towards anyone.
i hope it is not taken offensively,
and i hope it causes no drama
because that was not the point,
my comment was an attack on no one,
just ramblings by yours truly.
[just in case it's taken wrong].
i like peace and love :).

martin rocks,
and stuff.

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_talloolah May 19 2005, 01:40:10 UTC
wow
people take things too serious.
can you say drama comments?

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still__ill May 19 2005, 02:55:24 UTC
can you say 'discussion'? :)

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_talloolah May 19 2005, 03:04:41 UTC
ok kati.
however you see it.

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still__ill May 19 2005, 04:50:25 UTC
i am sorry that you're under the impression that "discussion" or "debate" equals the same thing as "drama". we don't all subscribe to those high school notions. :)

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mind of an animal trial_by_spider May 22 2005, 00:04:48 UTC
I'm sure people who hate them love them for this, because it means that only the few extremists will take them seriously.

In the meantime, other animals kill each other all the time, all animals are meant to be eaten by something. Herbivors by carnivors, carnivors by scavengers/bacteria/fungus, and so on until you get back to herbivors.

And of course, you have to remember the humans are animals to. PETA's cause was doomed from the start.

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