Warning Spoilers season 4 bsg (read at own risk)
Every thought after the cut.
OK, it's now been a week and a half since I first digested Daybreak pt 1 followed by Daybreak pt 2.
First impressions -
DAYBREAK PT 1 was too slow - felt like it was draggin it's feet...constantly. Fight followed by mellow, etc.
The flash backs were "what's happening....?" "Oh these'll mean something major" - followed by their conclusion "Huh? really all but the Lee and Baltar scenes were pointless"
ONE word - PIGEON. I hated and loved the Zac scenes - to me with my fandom history background it felt right in likelihood of character reactions. I was pissed (almost to Unfinished Business-like state) with both Kara and Lee over it. Also why, oh why a Pigeon??? what's the symbolology?
There was only two symbologies I could subscribe to the 'Pigeon out the door' - The first is the most likely: "A bird in the house means a death in the house" which is a really, really old statement used before captive birds. The second was "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" with Kara definitely the wild bird. (not as close a match as the first).
The suiside decision and the red, duct tape line - hits straight to my heart, esp using the one thing that holds the world together (duct tape). It was poignant. just crossing over to the next ep, the suspense on whether Baltar would make a stand was really really well done, just as we'd given up hope for his 'redemption' he surprised us.
I was cracking it when the scene with Anders in the bathtub after/before a pyramid game.... Meant nothing really but was so fortelling.
Favourite scene - Kara cooking
Favourite CGI - "Caprica: before the fall" - Beautiful city I'd love to heli over.
and now onto Daybreak pt 2.
Very, very, very visually beautiful.
Heart wrenching battle scenes with even more pilot attrition rates like we're used to...almost up to that of the miniseries.
The end felt like "end".....PS. "blah".....P.S.S "blah, blah".... P.S.S.S. "150 000 years LATER........P.S.S.S.S. "Mitochrondrial eve"
MORE PIGEON...(I never want to see another pigeon in the house ever)
Baltar trying to fight and be a good guy.
I started crying during the BSG is cracking apart and has broken her back part. She was such a warhorse and sourse of hope and home even for those of us watching that seeing her in 'pain' and falling apart around her masters was heartbreaking.
I actually am almost subscribing to the belief that LAURA is not the 'dying leader' as such mentioned in the prophecy, esp as she steps foot on their final resting place and the “[Pythia] also wrote that the leader suffered a wasting disease and would not live to enter the new land.” As possible options we have *Drum roll* GALACTICA and Racetrack - Racetrack could've had problems from raptoring the Fleet in the same ways as Kat just more prolonged, and then there was the fact that Galactica was suffering from a wasting disease - old age.
I loved every scene (BAR ONE HUGE EXCEPTION) set on Earth, esp when they were exploring and planning the settlements - I find it really funny that one of the settlements is going to be situated on AUSTRALIA!!!!! though I'm a bit surprised they only pointed to the 'MIDDLE' of the country. Even in those times that wouldn't be inhabitable for long term settlements.
ALSO the scene a few episodes Back, set on 'shattered' earth, the place they land reminds both myself and a friend who was watching of Botany Bay - down to the 'Opera House' (I will never look at it the same anymore) and the jutting out piece of something from the mainland into the bay - very much like the runway of Sydney Airport.
Every scene featuring Laura dying and Adama coming to terms was heart breaking, esp after Ron had hyped up and focused on their reactions and relationship over the last 20 Episodes. Also the hand on the window of the Raptor when she's saying goodbye was a nod to the same thing that Boomer did to Helo back on Caprica in the miniseries.
Also seeing Adama get over his wife and bestow his ring on Laura, even if it was too late, then start building the cabin that she wanted all the way back in New Caprica was poignant and respectful. I'd love to end that way.
And now I get to the shortest, single most spoken about clip in the entire two episodes (hell the entire series) Kara's goodbye.
After we've been through Friendshi[p, torture, abuse, sex, marriage, cheating, 'almost' Death, EVERYTHING between Kara and Lee; they'd both just watched the closest thing to a mother figure fly off to die, probably the last time Lee'll see his father, EARTH, the destruction by solar collision of their home for the last few years, EVERYTHING! and sure enough KARA's last words were that she couldn't stay, her 'job is done' and asking what Lee really wanted to do with his life. I find it really rude and it was very disturbing that she disappeared before the end of his statement and he couldn't even say a personal goodbye, though Lee's whispered words of "GOODBYE KARA, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU" were perfect. I was Bawling like a baby and was almost a wreck for a few minutes.
Onto 'What Kara was'
All up, I believe Kara is a similar manifestation of the the Head Characters, but with a more physical form. Both Anders and Leoben called her an Angel and added to the Hybrid's statement all the way back in RAZOR of "Kara thrace will lead the human race to it's end. She is the herald to the apocalypse, the harbinger of death." I believe she is a form of the Archangel Israfel. Considering on top of those names of Kara's, Israfel was also known as the "Burning One" and the "Angel of Song" - Perfect descriptions of Kara!!!
She also did lead them to their end - permanently moored on the green technologically challenged ball they'll call Earth..........On a roll I wikied Archangel Israfel and was bowled out of my seat by the hybrid-like forsight found in the article (very much like that of wiki-ing the greek gods in the beginning of season 2)
"The first blow of his trumpet will shatter the world,"
"and the second blow will awaken the dead and summon them to judgement"
Kara and her finding the 'original' Earth, followed by the 'All along the Watchtower' in awakening the final 4, unboxing of the Di'anna's and the Cylon-Human alliance - the judgement of who should survive and how is the enemy.
"A beautiful angel who is a master of music," "the breath of which is used to inject life into hosts of angels who add to the songs themselves"
All the hints and statements about Kara causing the 'final five to exist' by going to the original earth, linked with the fact that the song used to find the 'new' earth IS the same song as what 'awoke' 4 of the final 5 cylons.
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After all this, The end I have to say, even through all the unanswered QN's was one of the best produced and orchastrated endings I've ever seen and probably will see.
Weirdest event: Kara impersonating Casper the Friendly ghost
Most pointless event: Cavil offs himself in the HEAD - not that I didn't like it but WHY? It had no reason.
I'm still an Athiest moment:
Head Six: Let a complex system repeat itself long enough and eventually something surprising might occur. That too is in God’s Plan.
Head Baltar (whispering/growling): You know it doesn’t like that name!
Greatest shock moment: Beating Kara to the post was the P.S.S.S.S moment of "150 000" years later.
All up the ep was the only logical end to BSG but sections were explained by Michael Hall on Galactica-science.com perfectly: Fans came to the finale of Battlestar Galactica expecting - or at least wishing for - answers. What they got was a mind-frakking with answers that do not really make sense if you examine them critically. Perhaps that is the real message: some things do not make sense, and it’s for some reason, be it supernatural intervention, technological wizardry, or artistic license.
Offhand -
Taking our Earth as a starting point (it’s a cycle so there is no real beginning).
Modern man is a combination of Colonial,Cylon and Terrestrial Human (experiment 1).
Eventually technology reaches a level where it develops AI and interstellar travel and reaches Kobol (experiment 2).
Cylons move to a planet and call it Earth (experiment 3).
Kobolians leave and form the colonies (experiment 4)
Cylons leave and build the Colony (experiment 5)
Cylons and Humans attempt to live together on New Caprica (experiment 6).
With FTL time travel is a possible outcome.
The flashbacks showed how tiny events have massive outcomes (if Roslin had settled down with her handsome former student she wouldn’t be the President).
If the model of time travel where changes in time lines are possible is being used taking failed experiment 6 back to experiment 1 may give the God thing new options if new minor events lead to new major outcomes, with the aim of making beings more like itself.
If It finally got It’s wish would It get on with It’s AI any better than various humans have got on with theirs?
May the God thing has a God thing playing about with It’s destiny too.
OK, it's now been a week and a half since I first digested Daybreak pt 1 followed by Daybreak pt 2.
First impressions -
DAYBREAK PT 1 was too slow - felt like it was draggin it's feet...constantly. Fight followed by mellow, etc.
The flash backs were "what's happening....?" "Oh these'll mean something major" - followed by their conclusion "Huh? really all but the Lee and Baltar scenes were pointless"
ONE word - PIGEON. I hated and loved the Zac scenes - to me with my fandom history background it felt right in likelihood of character reactions. I was pissed (almost to Unfinished Business-like state) with both Kara and Lee over it. Also why, oh why a Pigeon??? what's the symbolology?
There was only two symbologies I could subscribe to the 'Pigeon out the door' - The first is the most likely: "A bird in the house means a death in the house" which is a really, really old statement used before captive birds. The second was "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" with Kara definitely the wild bird. (not as close a match as the first).
The suiside decision and the red, duct tape line - hits straight to my heart, esp using the one thing that holds the world together (duct tape). It was poignant. just crossing over to the next ep, the suspense on whether Baltar would make a stand was really really well done, just as we'd given up hope for his 'redemption' he surprised us.
I was cracking it when the scene with Anders in the bathtub after/before a pyramid game.... Meant nothing really but was so fortelling.
Favourite scene - Kara cooking
Favourite CGI - "Caprica: before the fall" - Beautiful city I'd love to heli over.
and now onto Daybreak pt 2.
Very, very, very visually beautiful.
Heart wrenching battle scenes with even more pilot attrition rates like we're used to...almost up to that of the miniseries.
The end felt like "end".....PS. "blah".....P.S.S "blah, blah".... P.S.S.S. "150 000 years LATER........P.S.S.S.S. "Mitochrondrial eve"
MORE PIGEON...(I never want to see another pigeon in the house ever)
Baltar trying to fight and be a good guy.
I started crying during the BSG is cracking apart and has broken her back part. She was such a warhorse and sourse of hope and home even for those of us watching that seeing her in 'pain' and falling apart around her masters was heartbreaking.
I actually am almost subscribing to the belief that LAURA is not the 'dying leader' as such mentioned in the prophecy, esp as she steps foot on their final resting place and the “[Pythia] also wrote that the leader suffered a wasting disease and would not live to enter the new land.” As possible options we have *Drum roll* GALACTICA and Racetrack - Racetrack could've had problems from raptoring the Fleet in the same ways as Kat just more prolonged, and then there was the fact that Galactica was suffering from a wasting disease - old age.
I loved every scene (BAR ONE HUGE EXCEPTION) set on Earth, esp when they were exploring and planning the settlements - I find it really funny that one of the settlements is going to be situated on AUSTRALIA!!!!! though I'm a bit surprised they only pointed to the 'MIDDLE' of the country. Even in those times that wouldn't be inhabitable for long term settlements.
ALSO the scene a few episodes Back, set on 'shattered' earth, the place they land reminds both myself and a friend who was watching of Botany Bay - down to the 'Opera House' (I will never look at it the same anymore) and the jutting out piece of something from the mainland into the bay - very much like the runway of Sydney Airport.
Every scene featuring Laura dying and Adama coming to terms was heart breaking, esp after Ron had hyped up and focused on their reactions and relationship over the last 20 Episodes. Also the hand on the window of the Raptor when she's saying goodbye was a nod to the same thing that Boomer did to Helo back on Caprica in the miniseries.
Also seeing Adama get over his wife and bestow his ring on Laura, even if it was too late, then start building the cabin that she wanted all the way back in New Caprica was poignant and respectful. I'd love to end that way.
And now I get to the shortest, single most spoken about clip in the entire two episodes (hell the entire series) Kara's goodbye.
After we've been through Friendshi[p, torture, abuse, sex, marriage, cheating, 'almost' Death, EVERYTHING between Kara and Lee; they'd both just watched the closest thing to a mother figure fly off to die, probably the last time Lee'll see his father, EARTH, the destruction by solar collision of their home for the last few years, EVERYTHING! and sure enough KARA's last words were that she couldn't stay, her 'job is done' and asking what Lee really wanted to do with his life. I find it really rude and it was very disturbing that she disappeared before the end of his statement and he couldn't even say a personal goodbye, though Lee's whispered words of "GOODBYE KARA, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU" were perfect. I was Bawling like a baby and was almost a wreck for a few minutes.
Onto 'What Kara was'
All up, I believe Kara is a similar manifestation of the the Head Characters, but with a more physical form. Both Anders and Leoben called her an Angel and added to the Hybrid's statement all the way back in RAZOR of "Kara thrace will lead the human race to it's end. She is the herald to the apocalypse, the harbinger of death." I believe she is a form of the Archangel Israfel. Considering on top of those names of Kara's, Israfel was also known as the "Burning One" and the "Angel of Song" - Perfect descriptions of Kara!!!
She also did lead them to their end - permanently moored on the green technologically challenged ball they'll call Earth..........On a roll I wikied Archangel Israfel and was bowled out of my seat by the hybrid-like forsight found in the article (very much like that of wiki-ing the greek gods in the beginning of season 2)
"The first blow of his trumpet will shatter the world,"
"and the second blow will awaken the dead and summon them to judgement"
Kara and her finding the 'original' Earth, followed by the 'All along the Watchtower' in awakening the final 4, unboxing of the Di'anna's and the Cylon-Human alliance - the judgement of who should survive and how is the enemy.
"A beautiful angel who is a master of music," "the breath of which is used to inject life into hosts of angels who add to the songs themselves"
All the hints and statements about Kara causing the 'final five to exist' by going to the original earth, linked with the fact that the song used to find the 'new' earth IS the same song as what 'awoke' 4 of the final 5 cylons.
____________________________
After all this, The end I have to say, even through all the unanswered QN's was one of the best produced and orchastrated endings I've ever seen and probably will see.
Weirdest event: Kara impersonating Casper the Friendly ghost
Most pointless event: Cavil offs himself in the HEAD - not that I didn't like it but WHY? It had no reason.
I'm still an Athiest moment:
Head Six: Let a complex system repeat itself long enough and eventually something surprising might occur. That too is in God’s Plan.
Head Baltar (whispering/growling): You know it doesn’t like that name!
Greatest shock moment: Beating Kara to the post was the P.S.S.S.S moment of "150 000" years later.
All up the ep was the only logical end to BSG but sections were explained by Michael Hall on Galactica-science.com perfectly: Fans came to the finale of Battlestar Galactica expecting - or at least wishing for - answers. What they got was a mind-frakking with answers that do not really make sense if you examine them critically. Perhaps that is the real message: some things do not make sense, and it’s for some reason, be it supernatural intervention, technological wizardry, or artistic license.
Offhand -
Taking our Earth as a starting point (it’s a cycle so there is no real beginning).
Modern man is a combination of Colonial,Cylon and Terrestrial Human (experiment 1).
Eventually technology reaches a level where it develops AI and interstellar travel and reaches Kobol (experiment 2).
Cylons move to a planet and call it Earth (experiment 3).
Kobolians leave and form the colonies (experiment 4)
Cylons leave and build the Colony (experiment 5)
Cylons and Humans attempt to live together on New Caprica (experiment 6).
With FTL time travel is a possible outcome.
The flashbacks showed how tiny events have massive outcomes (if Roslin had settled down with her handsome former student she wouldn’t be the President).
If the model of time travel where changes in time lines are possible is being used taking failed experiment 6 back to experiment 1 may give the God thing new options if new minor events lead to new major outcomes, with the aim of making beings more like itself.
If It finally got It’s wish would It get on with It’s AI any better than various humans have got on with theirs?
May the God thing has a God thing playing about with It’s destiny too.