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Oct 17, 2007 14:31

one little technical problem about Honest John has to do with avoiding schadenfreuden. it never comes off well. you find a lot of it in cheap fiction. also schadenfreuden tends to make fiction cheap ( Read more... )

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glastraum October 22 2007, 02:52:56 UTC
oh, what would nietzsche say?

schadenfreude is difficult to make "come off well" (pun unintended), but it can be done.

perhaps with a couple revisions and a writers awareness about his/her moral intentions (or lack thereof), it can be near perfection.

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ria777 October 22 2007, 04:12:15 UTC
don't get me wrong, I haven't declared schadenfreuden a no-no for all my writing, just this one novel.

you would love this other thing that I have written with one twin telling the other the story of Apocalypse which has and/or will take place. in that, though, I make the schadenfreuden element obvert, not hidden, like you'd get in a Left Behind novel, where you go "those poor sinners" and jack off at the same time.

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glastraum October 23 2007, 02:04:45 UTC
nice.

sounds like the poisonwood bible.

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ria777 October 23 2007, 16:56:20 UTC
not a book I have read. (also, I meant "overt" not "obvert".)

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lily_sword October 22 2007, 12:02:07 UTC
Found this scrolling through the f-list, thought you may like it:

Top 50 Dystopian Movies of All Time
http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/the-top-50-dystopian-movies-of-all-time/

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ria777 October 22 2007, 15:30:46 UTC
weird list, I mean they left out some significant films in favor of not as important ones released in the last ten years (or sometimes earlier). especially since they have such a broad defintion of dystopian, I can think of many, many worthy films which they excluded. also, according to them, SERENITY has a character named Dr. Simon. I actually don't like the movie in comparison to the series.

anyway, I thought of you yesterday I went to a networking dinner for queer women artists and thought you should have gone, except for the small physical distance which separates us geographically.

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lily_sword October 23 2007, 12:12:10 UTC
i would've joined you were i in the vicinity.

did you enjoy the dinner event?

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ria777 October 23 2007, 17:01:19 UTC
it had good food (some of which I provided, form the russian store down the street) and I liked socializing and I met one woman (not there but riding with her on the way back) who I liked and I would in future like to consider a friend.

on the minus side, the business-like side of artistic creation alienated me a bit when it seemed so far away from the art.

also, the meeting happened a block or so away from the Primal Scene of great significance to me, that I will write about (as fiction) in HONEST JOHN. that does not slot easily into either good or bad. I had not stopped out and walked around here in more than ten years if not longer.

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