It took me months to arrive at this. When caucuses came through I had no preferences. Had I voted for Clinton then, I would rue it today
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I seem to recall you saying before that you preferred "the introvert who knows where she stands." Nice to see you've changed your mind.
Darth Howie says that if it comes down to Clinton and McCain, he'll vote McCain to spite her. I might do the same, but for another reason. Turns out I actually agree with Ann Coulter on something: If either of them wins, you can bet that we'll get a president from the other party in just four years, and thus Clinton might do more of a service to Republicans in the long run.
I voted for Clinton in our primary. I don't really like her that much, but then again I don't like Barack Obama either. And I certainly don't like McCain. However, according to what I've read (in The Advocate actually) he isn't too conservative on gay issues, it's just now he's backpedalling from what were pretty progressive stances on things like gay marriage, etc. to appeal to the Republican base. He spent more money opposing the Defense of Marriage Act than either Clinton or Obama (I'm guessing that has a little to do with his constituency).
Be careful - I remember when Norm Coleman was a Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay, Liberal Democrat. When it seemed to him that that was not the path to the white house, he did 180s on all of that. I expect that once the campaign is under way, McCain's egalitarianism is going to go the way of his once vaunted opposition to torture.
With all due respect - and the warning that I am reaching for my crossbow here - that is just about as vile a phrase when applied to abortion and gay rights, when uttered by a straight male, as "kike" would be, coming from a "progressive" German.
Care to explain why I should not be contemplating murder right now?
Because this is the way Republicans have been using these issues for the past, I don't know, 12 election cycles or so? Divide people along pro-choice/anti-choice lines, and rally them to the polls to vote their hate. Instigating a Culture War around these two issues has proven to be a winning strategy for them since Reagan's days. My use of the word is to underscore that these two issues have been getting used, by Republicans mostly, to get out the hate vote. And I think, given the results of the 2004 elections, that it has been working well for them
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Ah, good. Ohay- that explanation actually does fulfill my last request. But coming on the heels of the Amanda Marcotte brouhaha this past week, your timing for usage of that phrase with those two issues was unfortunate, to say the least.
A beloved friend told me recently that she was going to be what she dreaded being most in this election: a one-issue voter. She dislikes both surviving Dem potentials, like me prefers Hillary and mistrusts Obama, bit she and I both found ourselves on the line together: we're voting on the choice issue, and that means the Dem candidate.
I remain in the "whatever democrat gets the nomination" camp. Clinton wouldn't be my ideal choice (I voted for Edwards in the primaries) but I do think the overall aversion to voting for a black candidate is stronger than generally reckoned on the TV and I wonder if our country could survive another Republican president right now. I'm not entirely sure it will survive the current one.
What I genuinely don't understand is a Clinton or Obama supporter who says they would vote for McCain or sit out the election if their candidate didn't get the nom.
That said, I on the whole I agree with your points above.
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Darth Howie says that if it comes down to Clinton and McCain, he'll vote McCain to spite her. I might do the same, but for another reason. Turns out I actually agree with Ann Coulter on something: If either of them wins, you can bet that we'll get a president from the other party in just four years, and thus Clinton might do more of a service to Republicans in the long run.
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TL;DR -- all your choices for president suck.
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Excuse me?
With all due respect - and the warning that I am reaching for my crossbow here - that is just about as vile a phrase when applied to abortion and gay rights, when uttered by a straight male, as "kike" would be, coming from a "progressive" German.
Care to explain why I should not be contemplating murder right now?
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A beloved friend told me recently that she was going to be what she dreaded being most in this election: a one-issue voter. She dislikes both surviving Dem potentials, like me prefers Hillary and mistrusts Obama, bit she and I both found ourselves on the line together: we're voting on the choice issue, and that means the Dem candidate.
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What I genuinely don't understand is a Clinton or Obama supporter who says they would vote for McCain or sit out the election if their candidate didn't get the nom.
That said, I on the whole I agree with your points above.
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