The land is "every inch of Palestine." And that would be Palestine as it looked at the time of the British Mandate. Liberation of the land entails bringing the land under Islamic rule, as Hamas understands it (ibid).
Since a common slogan of both Fatah and Hamas is "Jews into the Sea," I think we may logically infer that both organizations want all of Palestine, and would also kill as many Jews as they could in the process. Since both organizations also strike at non-Israeli Jewish communities, we may also infer that they would keep on killing Jews even after they destroyed Israel -- though admittedly they might be less focused on that objective after they killed most or all of the Jews in the Mideast.
Still, the attacks on foreign Jews would eventually force other countries to make war on the new country of Palestine, so even the destruction of Israel would not bring peace to Palestine.
What about the two state solution? Article 13 of the charter should be read in its entirety to understand why this will not work so long as Hamas
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I wonder, are there more Jews than Christians in the mideast at this point? My suspicion may be that there are, because the Islamic groups have been killing Christian Arabs as they come across them. We hear less about it because the Christian Arabs do not have their own country. Really, I think Israel's non-Muslimness is at least as important in their eyes as its Jewishness. I think that the violence against non-Israeli Jews is to persuade Diaspora Jewish communities to abandon their support of Israel. And certainly, useful idiots like Gid'on Levi are of great help to them in this regard.
10% of Egypt's 87 million citizens are Christians. To the 8.7 million Egyptian Christians add another 1 - 3 million Christians in the fertile crescent countries. Nearly all of the mideast's Jews are in Israel where they number around 6.5 million. So for the time being Christians still outnumber Jews in the mideast.
Yeah. Hamas will never be anything but a conquering bully willing to kill its own people to tell a lie to the world, and Fatah really isn't much better in terms of long-term prospects. They're not openly shooting, but they are not partners for peace either.
We need somebody else to conquer and dismantle Gaza -- another Arab nation ideally, so they can stop playing both the Jew card and the west card. Won't happen, though, for the same reason that the Arab world has been happy to create and perpetuate a "refugee" problem.
Didn't palestine (which is really jordan) reject the original two-state solution? Arab Muslims invaded israel from the very day it became a country and lost each time.
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Since a common slogan of both Fatah and Hamas is "Jews into the Sea," I think we may logically infer that both organizations want all of Palestine, and would also kill as many Jews as they could in the process. Since both organizations also strike at non-Israeli Jewish communities, we may also infer that they would keep on killing Jews even after they destroyed Israel -- though admittedly they might be less focused on that objective after they killed most or all of the Jews in the Mideast.
Still, the attacks on foreign Jews would eventually force other countries to make war on the new country of Palestine, so even the destruction of Israel would not bring peace to Palestine.
What about the two state solution? Article 13 of the charter should be read in its entirety to understand why this will not work so long as Hamas ( ... )
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We need somebody else to conquer and dismantle Gaza -- another Arab nation ideally, so they can stop playing both the Jew card and the west card. Won't happen, though, for the same reason that the Arab world has been happy to create and perpetuate a "refugee" problem.
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