Logan, vegetarians, etc.

[ridesandruns]

I'm thinking that sooner or later I'm gonna have to do a story in which Logan confronts vegetarians and goes apeshit. ("Just what the *&^% is the matter with you people? You know how I know we're supposed to eat animals? Because they're made of *&^%ing meat.") I'll consider it therapy. And revenge against a vegan who recently gave me shit for

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[onlyonechoice]

*laughs* Have you heard the one Jim Gaffigan (of the beard combover) standup?

"Do you know what they DO to those chickens?"

"No, but it's delicious."

Right there with you, and what the hell is some vegan giving you shit for wool, which doesn't even KILL the sheep to get it??

[ridesandruns]

I think the "OMG! WOOL!" argument is that it exploits the sheep, traumatizes the sheep (as the recipient of many a bad haircut, I can relate), and the shearing process can cut the animal's skin. It's probably true (except for the exploitation -- I mean, what? He's gonna keep his fleece and sell it on eBay himself?). But. Like a lot of knitters, I regard wool as The Magic Fiber: it's warm, soft, elastic, it "breathes", it's water-resistant and it's flame-retardant. Someone who doesn't know this and doesn't know shit about knitting has a lot of nerve telling me to knit with cotton. And besides, it's never wise to piss off a knitter -- we're armed with really sharp metal sticky things.

I just dismissed the vegan as some poor ignorant soul speaking with the understandable bitterness that comes from a lifetime of machine-knitted plant-fiber garments. You can bet your ass no one's knitting him pretty wool socks.

[npkedit]

See, now I give thanks to my religion every day because it considers being a vegetarian or vegan for moral reasons positively amoral (G-d orders us to eat meat in at least one place in the Bible and if G-d commanded it then it can't be morally wrong). You can be a vegetarian if you don't like meat (I dated a guy like that, but admittedly found a distaste for all things meat and poultry odd), but you certainly can't lecture everyone else.

Which is not to say that I don't like vegan and vegetarian dishes. I like my rabbit food as much as the next person (probably more). I just like my steak medium-rare afterwards.

Besides, even the science bunch would be hard-pressed to argue that humans aren't designed to be omniverous.

[ridesandruns]

I'm with you, girl! Moderation good, proselytizing bad! Me, I feel happiest and healthiest as an omnivore. And really, if I were going to eliminate whole food groups from my diet, I'd probably start with Things That Are Not Chocolate. Wouldn't do much for my butt, my complexion or my health, but boy would my mood improve!

[raphaelle]

a-MEN!

i guess more and more people feel morally-obligated to be vegetarian nowadays cause of the energy-level argument (eating meat is much more energetically inefficient than eating plant materials, etc), but goodness knows no matter what your reason for being vegetarian, being against wool is stupid.

anyway, being one of "the science bunch" i try to understand that people want to be responsible citizens and stuff...but if you're going to do that you have to do so in a healthy way, which i don't think a lot of people are good at.

also, i like me a roast beef sandwich or medium-rare steak, so (perhaps like your ex) i object for culinary reasons!

[ridesandruns]

As far as I'm concerned, people can gulp down live gerbils if it makes 'em happy. But in my office we've had relatively young people who are getting sick over and over again all winter long -- and a disproportionate number of them are vegetarians or vegans. I know plenty of people who avoid animal products and are healthy as hell, but I can't help but wonder if my workmates are missing vitamins or minerals or something.

And as for the wool thing -- knitters, spinners, etc. tend to feel very strongly about fiber. (The yarn kind, not the roughage kind. ;) ) Google "yarn snob" if you don't believe me. That jerk -- who doesn't even knit, for Chrissakes! -- had some nerve.

[jinxeh13]

Heh...I'm a vegetarian. ^.^; Been one for five years now. However, because I actually take a whole ten seconds every day in which to take protein vitamins, I don't have the tendency to get sick. Worst I've gotten this year is coming down with a sore throat, which my mom started off with, and which spread to the whole damn family (all of which, besides me, are meat-lovers). Still, I can understand your frustrations; I have a few vegan and vegetarian friends that somehow don't seem to think it important to take protein vitamins, and yeah, they're sick all the time. *rolls eyes* Also, I could really care less what the hell everyone else around me eats; s'long as I don't have to, you can eat a five-pound steak in front of me for all I care.

Lol. :)

[ridesandruns]

Y'know, you're the kind of vegetarian even Logan could love. He's be aghast that you don't eat meat, but once he realized you weren't going to bug him, he'd just give your serving of steak to Darwin the Beagle and you'd all chow down happily, you eating salad. And Darwin would love you for life. :)

I bet you're right about the vitamins. I don't know the work folk anywhere near well enough to ask, but I can't believe that many people can be getting that sick with a balanced diet. Maybe I oughta put Flintstones chewable vitamins in the candy dish and hope no one ODs.

[jinxeh13]

Ah, that is my use in my house--I won't eat the extra steak that came in the package, and so our dog gets a treat. =D Lol! I'm glad I'm not one of the people that Logan would have a problem with, heh...

Oh yeah, if vegetarians and vegans would just take their vitamins, they wouldn't be getting sick at all! In this world, I can't even see how it's possible to get sick when you don't eat meat; you can buy cheap powder mixes to mix in with your milk--you get chocolate or strawberry milk, AND extra protein supplements! There's iron tablets, and 2-a-day vitamins...vegetarians who don't do that stuff are just weird. ~.~

/rant

[jinxeh13]

By the way, icon love! Darwin! =D

I'll so read that story, should you choose to write it. Lol.

[lilacsigil]

I was a vegetarian for a few years because I didn't like meat. Then I ended up iron deficient (because I was not a very smart vegetarian) and moved to the country where we had a local butcher. Locally produced, locally slaughtered meat, without all the water that supermarkets put in their meat? Delicious!

(Also, have they ever seen a sheep that hasn't been sheared in a while? Not a happy creature!)

[ridesandruns]

Personally, the freshly sheared sheep I've seen tend to look stunned, embarrassed ("I'm naked!") and eventually, relieved. That wool gets hot! Poor things, though -- they look so small minus the wool!