Sunday( for myself)

[robingoh]

I staggered home at 7am, got into bed at 8am and probably fell asleep at around 9am. Sometime in between, I was on the phone with Jon in an unsatisfactory conversation that we had to end before it "got ugly"( his words). I would have slept on but I was woken at 1pm by Eddy who told me that the Chijmes gig was on, and asked if I could go down for a

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[runecircle]

i think the point is to learn unconditional love. it isn't unrealistic, it is just very difficult. what is unrealistic is to have one's cake and eat it, too. the only one stopping someone from seeing/experiencing unconditional love is himself. i'm not christian, but sending someone to hell (punishment) doesn't negate the unconditional love that God has, for example. i think you are clumping responsibility, consequence, forgiveness/blame with love--in that love will override all the above mentioned.

life and love isn't disappointing. it's not the world. i urge you to get out of this sort of victim mentality. maybe talk to a cancer patient and ask them simply why they want to live. why they still try. ask why people still believe in or look for love, if it's "disappointing".

such things in life are auditions, my friend. think of them as auditions. we actors go through that all the time. the rejection shouldn't destroy the bigger picture. the failure in one audition means squat.

[robingoh]

I disagree with you on so many counts. We'll have to talk about it someday. Of course sending someone to hell negates unconditional love, by its very definition. Responsibility, consequence, forgiveness and blame are all very much parts of love. Love will override? Puh-leeze. What I'm saying is that love is not negated or even diminished by any of these things. We just have to realise that these are part and parcel of love. Of course love and life is disappointing. And in this life, we are all victims and victimizers at some point in time and in some way. Like Billie Holiday( she's a horrible example for this exchange, I'm well aware) says, we're all used, it's in the how. I have a couple of cancer patients in my life right now, and I know why they still try. But don't tell me they're not disappointed. It makes them that much more courageous. Thank you for your thoughts and for articulating them so clearly and with such optimism. I'm glad there are those like you. But I still believe in conditional love. I still believe in an

[correllis]

Im a believer in your ideology. Every forms of love is imperfect. So is life.

But, and yes, this does not engender or consist negativity. It is just a fact, lay right in front of every human beings.

For living this life, our life, we all have to know the pain, AND the happiness (god bless us), together, form the circle of life.

[runecircle]

it's ok. my comment wasn't to correct whatever view you are entitled to have, but just to cheer you up or at least offer a more positive alternative. after all, no one knows for a fact, but we certainly have the choice to look at it half-empty or half-full.

[urbank1d]

I don't believe in unconditional love too.