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Jul 30, 2007 21:23

Do you think that math and intuition together form some sort of grand dichotomy from which existence is created/conceived and all human conflict stems?

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hawkaris July 31 2007, 08:05:09 UTC
Math and intuition do not work together at higher levels, of which the creation/conception or existence and stemming of all human conflict no doubt is. Math and intuition barely work together on relatively low levels.
Take, for example, that for any random 23 people, there is a 50/50 probability that two will share a birthday. Or that folding a piece of paper in half thirty times will result in a stack of paper over fifty miles high. Maybe the classic Towers of Hanoi problem: given 64 discs on the three needles and one second per move, it would take half a trillion years to complete the puzzle. Perhaps the best example was from calculus class: Gabriel's Horn. Finite volume, infinite surface area.
No, intuition and mathematics do not work together at the higher levels. If they did, perhaps what you are supposing would be true. But they don't.

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rolloadams July 31 2007, 13:06:11 UTC
Wait, I didn't suggest that they work together at all. I was saying they were the exact opposite.

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mama_fark July 31 2007, 14:18:26 UTC
He might have you there, Nathan, given that "dichotomy" means opposite. Personally, I think Math IS intuition, only at a different (and in my frail brain) functional/perceptual level. There are a lot of things in the world that I'd hate to see replaced with EITHER Math OR intuition, flowers being one of them.
On the other hand given Rollo's upbringing, he WOULD assume that math and intuition are the fonts from which all conflict stems-there might be other sources...

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hawkaris July 31 2007, 14:39:18 UTC
He gets a "Rollo" and I get a Nathan?
That aside, I could argue that by being mutually exclusive (rather than "opposite" as you so put it) would imply a working together to form something. Or I could argue against your false dichotomy (logical fallacy: 10 points) by stating that the two ideas form a spectrum: the symmetry of the flower is math while the beauty it invokes is intuitive.
In all honesty, though, I'll invoke the "I was tired and bored and I didn't actually read the thing proper-like." I'm sure the time of my comment will agree with that statement.

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