I am a Patriot, too, dammit.

[roseinmist]

I try and avoid politics on my LJ for the most part, simply because I have many friends I would prefer to not antagonize if I can avoid it, since we get along very well as long as politics doesn't come up. They are intelligent people, and even if I disagree with them, and they with me, we usually just "agree to disagree" and get on with our lives

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[altodescant]

What really speaks in that last example is the fact that they're not even picturing a proper noose - as if to say "This N--- isn't worth the effort

[gmax58]

Quite frankly, the implications of McCain and Palin as evil have to stop*, as well. Most of my more liberal friends have been acting as it the election of the two is somehow going to lead to the end of American civilization as we know it. That said, I absolutely agree that the divisive politics on both sides has to stop...although the examples you make represent among the worst of the far right, just as (on my chapter's mailing list) I've been seeing the worst of the far left (posters and such showing that New York is better without the WTC, etc

[altodescant]

Posters showing NY better off without the WTC?? I must see this.

[edit]

Especially since something that tries to assign the personal politics of Norman Mailer to anyone on the far left sounds precisely like a Conservative tactic.

[roseinmist]

I fail to see the equivalence between some awful posters being passed around on a mailing list and slashing people's tires, or the public denouncement of half of the country as anti-American by an elected representative in Congress and the VP candidate. The difference is the magnitude of influence -- comparing commenters on Daily Kos calling McCain a bloodthirsty warmonger to Sarah Palin essentially calling Obama a terrorist is like comparing apples to oranges. She has the influence and the audience; commenter on Daily Kos has neither.

We obviously both agree that the campaigns should be about policy, but it seems painfuly obvious to me that one side is keeping to policy for the most part, and the other is heading directly into character assassination using spurious allegations of connections with people whose infamy arose forty years ago.

[avengangle]

Apparently you watched the Daily Show last night, too.

Connie Schultz (wife of U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-OH) had a great editorial in the PD the other day, wherein she pointed out to Gov. Palin that only a patriot is willing to give his life for his country, and Sen. Obama was assigned Secret Service bodyguards earlier in his campaign than any other presidential candidate.

Secondarily, I have hated the "city people aren't REAL Americans" thing as long as it's been around. Ugh.

[roseinmist]

Actually, it was Countdown with Keith Olbermann, but I'm sure they touched on the same things (although Jon Stewart was probably funnier. Keith was just mad.)

[darthsnugglebun]

Agreed wholeheartedly. I love my country. I think that really great and amazing things can happen here. Which is why I'd like to see our elected leaders STOP F-ING IT UP. Being a liberal doesn't make me any less of a patriot.

What is it about someone different that brings out the the worst in people? We get a presidential candidate with a different shade of skin and a funny name and all of a sudden he eats babies while sacrificing animals to Xenu and dancing naked around a fire (or was that Tom Cruise?) The sheer amount of disinformation and things that are just plain wrong boggle my mind. He's not Arabic or a Muslim (not that it should matter). He's not a terrorist. He's not really even Black, for chrissakes (unless someone can explain to me how 50% Black > 50% White). He obviously loves his country enough to run for President, which is really a sucker job.

/rant

[supermeg83]

An editor of the Tribune today published an article (finally!!) describing Sen. McCain's ties to G. Gordon Liddy, one of the highest members of CREEP and a leader of the Watergate break-in. He points to a few important issues:
1. Why was David Letterman the first one to bring this up? Are the conventional media asleep at the wheel?
2. Obama kind of knows Ayers. McCain is FRIENDS with Liddy. Liddy has hosted McCain fundraisers, and when Sen. McCain appeared on Liddy's radio show, he told him, "I'm proud of you".
3. When pointing out that Ayers has not recanted for his illegal tactics (but has paid his own debt to society), he fails to mention that Liddy has not only not recanted, he is proud of what he did, and has continued to urge violence against federal police after (sort of) paying his debt to society before having his sentence commuted by President Carter.