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inappropriately December 26 2010, 19:04:23 UTC
Eeeee this was such a fun read. THIS EPISODE GAVE ME SO MUCH JOY *squishes Doctor Who to chest*

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rowanberries December 26 2010, 19:49:47 UTC
IT WAS PRETTY AND SHAMELESSLY MANIPULATED MY TENDER FANGIRL HEART OMG.

*beamy*

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apiphile December 26 2010, 19:40:32 UTC
And that lovely, lovely line about having never ever met someone who wasn't important before.

I DIDN'T TEAR UP AT THAT AT ALL. NO SIR. NOT ME.

How I adore that they were completely having kinky sex games in the Honeymoon Suite just before this episode started.

I love that this was basically "happy Christmas, mum and dad, here's something nice for you to look at too: arthur darvill in uniform and karen gillan in her strippogram outfit".

"I am showing it to you. I'm showing it to you right now."

Um. I got chills.

NO SHIT.

Halfway out of the dark.That's what sold the whole thing for me. Yes it was a shameless retelling of a very mawkish story by hackmeister Dickens, but even though there was talk of "spending time with family", there wasn't the anvil of FAMILY IS ALL. The Doctor didn't try to fix Kazran's relationship with his father, he tried to help him to fix himself after having to deal with that father; we weren't smacked repeatedly in the face with religious imagery as RTD (weirdly, for an atheist) kept doing, and the ( ... )

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rowanberries December 26 2010, 19:56:03 UTC
Yessss.

The Doctor didn't try to fix Kazran's relationship with his father, he tried to help him to fix himself after having to deal with that father

That is an excellent point! No 'yes he's an abusive shit, but he's your Daddy you MUST FORGIVE HIM' for THIS Doctor! Man, that was annoying.

God. I know it still wasn't perfect, and after a few more rewatches, I'm sure I'll find a million things to pick at - but it was the first episode in a long time that I have watched and then sat back happily and thought of as good, you know?

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yakalskovich December 26 2010, 20:16:47 UTC
It was incredibly brilliant! I really loved it, and bawled like a kid at the end...

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davegodfrey December 26 2010, 21:03:57 UTC
Because the situation is already stable, I am not bothered that Kazran could touch his younger self.

I am. Does the name Blinovitch mean nothing to these people? Nothing?

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lizbee December 27 2010, 01:10:39 UTC
I really love your take on Abigail and refrigeration. Because I've seen a lot of complaints that this is more of Moffat's misogyny, and how DARE he not cure a terminally ill person on Christmas! But, although I am amused by the literal aspect of the refrigeration, I couldn't quite buy those arguments, and you've articulated why.

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rowanberries December 27 2010, 01:37:22 UTC
I am glad! I probably wasn't as articulate as I hoped, due to many, many cold medicines - but I wanted to bring it up. Writers so often use women's deaths to spur a positive, or at least defining change in the lives of their main characters. (Helping them make a choice to fight/investigate/whatever if they are heroes; providing an excuse/convenient backstory for villains.) This was just something that was, and it wasn't even the main point of Abigail's character - it was that she loved the fish (IN THE SKY), and even though she was willing to freeze her last few days to help out her family in a bad situation, she wanted to live the rest of her life to the fullest she could. Which is pretty awesome.

/Ramble.

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