SAM/DRG - Underestimated?

[rukenshin]

Introduction

So around 2-3 years ago I leveled up DRG subjob with the intention of using it as a 'for fun!' SJ choice on WAR and later SAM. And damn, 2 years ago, I can't believe I'm referring to past accomplishments in a video game in the increment of years. :( Damn this game.

Anyway, skip ahead some and when I first obtained relic GK I played

Comments

[anonymous]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=14;mid=120726321591909508;page=1

read this for a convincing argument that jump does not have a 50% VIT mod, but rather uses this formula:

base dmg: (WD + fSTR)*(VIT/256+1)

[rukenshin]

Oh wow, I actually read that post earlier today. I ended getting linked around between a few places while researching it, the wiki page has that formula as well.

I completely forgot to include it in the update though, thanks for the heads up and for the correction. I'll fix it now.

[supermanrich]

would you use that same setup when you get full usu? I cant help but feel a bit skeptical for hagun users tbh, although after looking at your extensive testing, i know its no slouch. Ill def have to give it a shot, ill try to get my friend jack to do it with his as well since hes got an amano. one thing i found extremely cool was that you got more hits with /drg. I guess with all that haste and extra attack from it, its more chances for it to proc eh? im not much of a math person myself, but when you do get the usu head, you need to post some difference on the far eastern jobs as far as haste goes compared to mix/match, ESPECIALLY with a /drg sub.

oh p.s. syl says i got a nicer butt than you. /FACE.

[rukenshin]

If I ever finish it. :(

I'll definitely post some parses once it's done and I get time, just gotta make that damn head piece drop already! This week has been crazy luck, so maybe it'll be the one.

And punk get out of here, everyone knows I got back.

[tacrozar]

Prices of that earring will now go up.

I'm no SAM... but I bet there will be more people going /drg in merit pts hat I join now. I'll be interested to see how I fare against them. Currently as mnk/nin only really good SAMs tend to do better than me. They are generally better equipped and consistently perform WS at ~110TP. All other SAMs save WS until the very end so they WS at like 200TP or worse... 300 TP. In the end, I outparse them by a good 10%.

[veyrongaruda]

Already went up from 150 > 160 > 170 on Kujata, checked when I went to look for one for myself personally lol.

[rukenshin]

Damn, I so should've bought a few of those earrings before this update.

[veyrongaruda]

Seriously right? Kinda funny...atleast you posted this on Sam forums first so we got a preview!

[fitzysimons]

In your opinion, do you think these results would be similar if you subbed DRG on other jobs, say MNK or WAR? I know SAM is miles different from those two, but the whole haste, accuracy, jump addition is very appealing and those parse results + the math was incredibly surprising. I tried getting my fiancee to level her DRG for her SAM until she gave up on it, but now that she's leveling MNK, and already has WAR to 75, I wonder if this wouldn't be a great sub to have anyway. Any thoughts?

[rukenshin]

Main problem I see with doing this on other jobs is the loss of a defensive ability. Most other DDs subbing SAM also get the advantage of Seigan to fall on if things get bad, where they wouldn't have anything else normally

[gengu]

Am I reading that WS setup correctly? o.O;

[electronfox]

Ruke obviously just copy/pasted the TP setup again and forgot to change it! I spy Shura head, Triumph Earring, Alkyoneus, Warwolf, Usukane legs, and Rutter Sabatons there.

[rukenshin]

Yeah, sorry I missed that mistake. D:

I fixed it.