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Aug 16, 2006 13:57

...for those of you who wanted copies. The finished copy of... ( A Pagan Way of Living and Dying: Suffering To Learn As Sacrament )

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Feedback on a "Pagan Way of Living and Dying" evilwolfy August 17 2006, 14:22:37 UTC

You have a good starter document. Now it's time to break it apart. I think you have the material here for a few separate essays, and I think you might want to seriously step back and consider that route.

Essay 1: The Role of the Priest in Modern Neo-Paganism. I made the quip in LJ that "Pagan men need to take their balls back from their priestesses". While that was a very tongue in cheek, your essay did touch on multiple "lines" given about Priests. I think that subject needs to really be given more focus because I really don't see that many Priests stepping up to the plate. Why is that? What do Priests in our local community think? That right there is the foundation for survey of Priests and Priestesses. What questions should we ask of one another? What do we see as the reason for the imbalance? What are our personal experiences? What kind of plan can we put into place to insure a balanced clergy? The division of powers and the lack of balance are massive powderkegs, but someone has to ask the questions that no one wants to hear ( ... )

Re: Feedback on a "Pagan Way of Living and Dying" sabre_hawke August 17 2006, 18:35:46 UTC

Wow. Thank you for some really great insights. I've already had another suggest (by email) that I need to write a book. I already know of one book in process (that someone else is writing -- a priest of years of experience) on the role(s) of the priest in Paganism, in Wicca in particular -- but he and I have talked extensively and his model I think is applicable elseewhere. But as I said, it's still in process. I hadn't realized how heavily influenced by his work I was until your first paragraph, though.

I think you are right that it needs to be broken down and expanded. I wrote the paper/article as a basis for a workshop -- one I've taught once before and am teaching again this weekend as the SS Harvest Gathering. (It's been about a year since the last time I taught it.)

Thank you so much! How about this -- as an Asatraur of experience, and a student of Wicca, how do you see yourself in terms of your priesthood and what are your answers to these questions?

Re: Feedback on a "Pagan Way of Living and Dying" evilwolfy August 17 2006, 18:52:54 UTC

Now that I can answer, but I might have to wait until the weekend to get the time to hammer that out. :)

Re: Feedback on a "Pagan Way of Living and Dying" sabre_hawke August 17 2006, 19:12:29 UTC

Cool -- I'll be out of town all weekend - -so no rush. Again, my thanks, brother!

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Comments on "Stewardship" evilwolfy August 17 2006, 14:37:12 UTC

Again, a very strong essay, but I think this can also be broken down. There's a key focus in this essay that really needs to be delved into. How much of Christianity's tenets do we drag with us into Paganism, and are those tenets applicable? The notion of money, tithes, professional clergy, those all boil down to experiences, mostly negative, that we bring with us. We have to learn how to separate out the two schools of thought which requires introspection and forces us to develop some impartiality. I can't tell you how many times I've heard Christianity bashed at Gatherings, but the Community would be all up in arms about the exact same thing being said in reference to Wicca, Asatru, Druidry, etc ( ... )

Re: Comments on "Stewardship" sabre_hawke August 17 2006, 18:43:23 UTC

Again, excellent observations. I am not (nor would I ever) advocate bashing of any other religious path -- but I do tend to step lightly around the subject of Christianity. I have found that people listen more carefully (and more willingly) if I don't just jump right in and say "We should do what the 'fill in the blank's do!" I'm also not intending to advocate a paid clergy here -- but rather that stewardship be counted on all levels, including money, including what you mention.

Yes, "living in accord" is an excellent definition for healthy stewardship.

And I agree with you about the microcosm/macrocosm thing. I've always felt that if my house was messy, my mind was, too. Right now I've got two back rooms (that are my responsibility) that are horrible -- but the common areas stay tolerable. It's almost exactly what kind of state my mind is in right now! LOL Sometimes the opposite of your statement is true, too -- the microcosm reflects the macrocosm. :-)

Re: Comments on "Stewardship" sabre_hawke August 17 2006, 18:44:47 UTC

Oops! Rereading and I realized I forgot to say thank you!

Sooo -- Thank You so ever much! I know this took time and thought and I really appreciate it!

butch_lebeau August 18 2006, 05:17:35 UTC

Hey, I just thought of something... I never got that jewelry box in the mail. Did they send it to the wrong place?

Comments on "Stewardship" wodentoad August 18 2006, 13:51:57 UTC

While I can perfectly well walk across the hall and tell you, I'll leave this for you to peruse later. I speak as the child of journalists, and while I have no actual journalism experience myself, I do know a few tricks of the trade. I am also harsh, evil, but just. That being said, take with a grain, or large block, of salt ( ... )