After an anonymous rendezvous on an international forum (très Cold War), a fellow Sandbaggers fan and I thought it might be nice to come and have a chat about the show here at SIS headquarters, so to speak, where there was a chance of finding other enthusiasts
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Excellent post!
Love Neil, precisely because he is such a bastard, and he tries to be as loyal as possible to his Sandbaggers.
I knew this was not your typical television fare when three agents were introduced over two episodes, and then two of them were killed off in the third episode. Some shows can only wish their deaths were as meaningful and a punch in the gut.
I think I was just in front of the TV at the right time, probably watched another show at the same time/same night, The Sandbaggers replaced it and I instantly got hooked.
Favourite characters: Willie Caine, hands down. Guess I just love the sidekick and yes, I did cry when I first saw the twentieth episode and heard the voice-over the credits which went something like, 'This is the last episode of The Sandbaggers, due to the death of the writer-creator Ian Mackintosh.' I was glad to read later that Ray Lonnen said Willie would have survived and been paralyzed, but even recently (late ( ... )
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Absolutely. It's a shock, and then just when you think they've got it out of their system and you're starting to relax... It makes everyone's missions seem perilous for the rest of the series.
when my mom and sister watched the series, they also immediately thought Willie had been killed off.
It's the logical conclusion, based both on past episodes and on Neil's character arc. Over the course of S3 he loses everyone- he starts out having lost his original C for Gibbs, then the rotten underpinnings of his relationship with Jeff are laid bare, then he loses Ed Tyler, Karen goes back to America, and finally Peele and Sir Geoffrey wash their hands of him. Losing Willie for good is the logical next step.
I'm really glad they decided to spare him, though. ♥♥ Willie ♥♥
I don't think Neil ever quite forgave Jeff for that and their friendship was never the same.There's a weird ( ... )
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The end of To Hell With Justice, once everything comes out. My god, poor Neil. Poor Ed Tyler. There's just this sort of heartbreaking collegial quiet between them as his fate hangs over them.
And in, oops I forget the title, the time when Wellingham gives Neil a very heartfelt and (for him) idealistic speech about why, much as he deserves it, they still can't assasinate this person who royally deserves it on British soil. And Neil seems very much affected and agrees. And then Neil turns around and tells Willie that they're going to kill the target later, when he's in a different country.
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I knoooooow. I really liked him, too, and his replacement is such a useless douche.
eil turns around and tells Willie that they're going to kill the target later, when he's in a different country
Haha, yes! I love all Neil's little moments of shady rules-lawyering. Including the one with the maps. *points up to icon*
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He goes through the usual channels to try and block the closure, to no avail. Then Marianne discovers a rule saying that no theatre of operation should be more than 1,000 miles from a station. Unfortunately, Caracas is less than 1,000 miles away from the Caribbean- but Neil realizes no one ever checks the geographic coordinates in their briefing documents. So he lies about the location of Caracas to shift it outside the 1,000 mile radius, and the station is saved.
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What attracted me to the show was seeing somebody else (yhlee, on Dreamwidth) blogging about it on her journal. She made it sound so interesting I had to find the series and watch it, and am really glad I did.
Favourite characters/moment in the show -- I love so much about it that I can't think of what to single out without doing a complete rewatch.
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