More Richer Than My Tongue, Part 5

Jul 22, 2008 16:21

Title: More Richer than my Tongue - Part 5
Rating: R
Pairing: Jack/Ianto
Notes, credits: This part owes everything to antelope-writes, who generously shared hundreds and hundreds of words of her thoughts on what the deep and important issues between Ianto and Jack would be at this point in the story. If you haven't checked out her metas, you really should; her ( Read more... )

more richer than my tongue, jack/ianto

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bookwrm89 July 23 2008, 01:10:11 UTC
Wow...very powerful chapter. So much raw emotion. Really looking forward to more of this.

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 03:47:27 UTC
Thanks a lot! They're both too exhausted to be anything but raw. It's wearing me out though. I've gotta go write some uncomplicated smut or something...

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bookwrm89 July 23 2008, 03:48:50 UTC
*grins* uncomplicated smut is good too! LOL

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kenazfiction July 23 2008, 01:25:03 UTC
This is one of the few fics I've read where I can really believe Jack's hurt-- even perhaps humiliation--at being used by Ianto. It's so easy to see Jack as open to all comers and free with his sexual favors that it's interesting to see it in this light, and it's very believable.

Likewise, Ianto's pain is just so raw...there's just so much guilt and ambivalence, and it seems that no matter how much he's lashing out, he is really reserving so much of his animosity for himself.

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 03:53:31 UTC
Jack is an interesting case. I've met people like him -- not people who were that sexually free, but people who exhibited that level of generosity with their time, attention, and favours. In my experience, that sort of person expects a level of gratitude that is equal to their generosity -- not in a manipulative way, just that they expect appreciation for what they do. They also give and give and give as a way of distracting others from seeing that they don't really feel they deserve to be given anything in return. Which means that the level of hurt they can experience when disappointed, when really not appreciated in the way that they want to be, is very high.

Um, if that made any sense at all. I feel like I should have included a diagram there.

So yeah, I think Jack is hurt, and humiliated. What he offered wasn't accepted in the right spirit, and that's always a blow. (But not the good kind)

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mr_mrs_faxsea July 23 2008, 09:38:43 UTC
this makes very much sense.
But with that in mind I think Jack was more drunk than I realized when they had sex the night before.
Otherwise I can't place HE would want to have sex with Ianto at that time.

-S-

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 15:44:58 UTC
Yeah, they both had a lot to drink. It was excellent scotch.

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ivymcallister July 23 2008, 02:03:48 UTC
I feel compelled to mention that when I Googled the title of your fic (to get some perspective on the quotation since I'm on my third year of Shakespeare studies) your fic came up as the first two search results. As a matter of fact, it was 7 out of the first ten results, outranking sites devoted to Shakesperare and Shakespeare quotes. (This is in no way a criticism--just an observation of the ways of Teh Google.)

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 05:21:52 UTC
Effin' awesome!

As I'm sure you know, since you have clearly studied more Shakespeare than I have with my one required second-year course, the title is from Cordelia's line, "My love's more richer than my tongue," and she says it to explain that any words she could speak on the subject of her love for her father would be meaningless; her actions are what she ought to be judged on.

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christine_twfan July 23 2008, 02:20:01 UTC
Wow, this chapter was so powerful. They had to have this out though if they are going to be able to move on (which we know they do). Fantastic!

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 05:26:05 UTC
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. I don't mind that, in canon, the Jack/Ianto relationship is only touched on from time to time in tantalizing snippets, but it's certainly a big question, how they got from being willing to watch the other die to wanting to play sexifun stopwatch games 4 episodes later. How to get from Point A to Point B without selling out the characters or resorting to cheap devices is an interesting puzzle.

Mind you, I'm not sure that sticking them in a tent doesn't count as a cheap device. So...uh...nevermind what I just said. Look at the pretty angry boys. *distracts*

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gingerlr July 23 2008, 22:24:51 UTC
I like the idea that you put them in a tent in the middle of nowhere and rained on them. I feel that it's the best place to have a fight like this without the rest of the team peaking their heads around the corner trying to listen to every word. It gives them the privacy needed to yell at each other.

I'm imaging this fight in the hub with Gwen around the corner and it's not a pretty sight.

*going to look at the pretty angry boys right now*

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darketernal09 July 23 2008, 03:43:55 UTC
defintly lovin this story, espically this chapter. well done. looking forward to more

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sanginmychains July 23 2008, 05:26:21 UTC
Thanks ever so.

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