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Oct 07, 2005 09:24

Okay, i'm not trying to put anyone down or anything, but seriously, if you honestly care that schools say the pledge of alliegance, get outta the country. If you go to any other country where a certain religion that you study is not practiced there, lets see you fight it, and try to change it. It won't hapen. If you and the kids don't agree with ( Read more... )

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santaclause58 October 7 2005, 16:07:01 UTC
I totally agree. Don't like the way us Americans do stuff, get the hell out!

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jojospanks October 8 2005, 03:10:33 UTC
Santy Santy Santy. You know I love ya and all but as someone who firmly believes in the separation of church and state I think you're not giving enough credit to the issue. It's not a matter of "if you don't like it, get out of the country". There are tons of americans who aren't christian so why should something that's fundamentally christian be part of public policy? How do you think including phrases like "praise allah" or "go buddha" into the pledge allegiance would go over with the american public? It would never happen. Why is that? If it's ok to include christian phrases why not other religions too? Because the foundation of the country's policy is a separation of church and state, but somehow they keep squeezing in all these christian things and it's a double standard. Bottom line, religion has no place in public schools. And btw if you don't think a bunch of people say things like "OH that person doesn't belive in god, shame on him/her" than you obviously haven't heard a lot of Bush's speeches. lol ( ... )

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hockeypup October 8 2005, 03:24:51 UTC
I gotta agree with Joey on this one. If you want God in your school, go to a private school where it's allowed. But it's not fair to Muslim children, or athiest children, or pagan children, etc to have to bow to Christian beliefs in a public school. And it's not anti-American or anything. One of the foundations of the country is separation of church and state, after all.

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santaclause58 October 8 2005, 03:34:24 UTC
right, and thats why they shoudln't have to. Let them sit out of it. I agree on my point and joeys. Thats why it is such a debate. I remember when they had the hole thing in Hamtramck. When Sadam was overthrown and captured, they played stuff over speakers and what not. Maybe people don't wanna hear that. There was nothing that could be done. I respect everyones decision about the religion they have, its their life. Like I said though, they don't like it, just leave them out of it, its not like we are having bible studies in the class ya know? Otherwise if we did yeah def go to private school where that is practiced. I dont' think that it should have to stop because someone else doesn't like it though. Let the ones who agree with it praise their god. If other have other religions, let them do it to, but dno't go into discussion in class about it ya know?

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jojospanks October 8 2005, 03:44:57 UTC
But see the point is there shouldn't be anything they have to sit out of. Because there's nothing that the christian kids have to sit out of. Ya know?
Like everything should be allowed or nothing, not this double standard of only christian things allowed.

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