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alsoname December 12 2011, 21:30:19 UTC
It's important to be aware of your own abilities and confident in what you can do. Underestimating yourself can hold you back. I also think it's important not to be baselessly arrogant and overestimate your abilities, closing yourself off to the possibility that you could ever be wrong. Confidence is good, and so is humility. If this issue is going to be cast as a "male-versus-female" thing, it seems like we should be saying that we should all strive to be realistic, confident, and humble, rather than that all females should strive to adopt stereotypical "male" attitudes. Being able to admit you are wrong and listen to other viewpoints is also a strength.

These are just my thoughts after reading that piece (most of which -- the techy parts -- I didn't understand!). I don't mean to imply that the author said females need to strive to be more "male."

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sapience December 16 2011, 08:01:20 UTC
I've seen many people argue that women need to adopt more "masculine" behaviors in order to succeed (e.g. competitiveness, aggression, etc.), which always gets on my nerves because a)it's a form of victim-blaming that deflects accountability from the power structures that develop and reenforce the inequalities, and b) because having "success" depend upon such anti-social qualities is a bad thing that needs to be changed to something pro-social. I didn't get that sense from this particular article, though ( ... )

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alsoname December 18 2011, 22:41:12 UTC
I didn't get that sense from this particular article, though.

I didn't either -- I was just kind of riffing on some issues that the article made me think of.

it's nice to hear someone say that it's okay if I overestimate my competence a little bit. Without that freedom, I'm too afraid of crossing the line to ever actually have any idea where it is.

Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way before. It's really interesting. I think in the past, especially when writing research papers for a class or writing about complicated topics for a blog, I have probably overestimated my abilities at certain points. This leads to huge anxiety as I am immersed in the project, already committed to it, but experiencing the sinking "holy shit i bit off way more than i can chew!" feeling. In the end, though, I think I've always come out of those situations better off. It's good to rise to a challenge and improve my abilities in the process.

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sapience December 19 2011, 07:18:49 UTC
It's good to rise to a challenge and improve my abilities in the process.

I really like the way you phrased this. I have to keep reminding myself that the only way to grow is to reach a little beyond what I can comfortably do.

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alienghic December 13 2011, 02:05:34 UTC
That sounds familiar -- at least the underselling oneself. I bet I do that all the time. (I'm glad I peeked at LJ)

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sapience December 16 2011, 08:07:54 UTC
Heh, yes, I can absolutely understand why that might sound familiar to you. But I can assure you, rumors of your awesomeness are NOT greatly exaggerated, despite the protests coming from that particularly loud section of your grey matter. (Pipe down in there, brain!) :)

I'm glad you peeked, too! :D

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