[Volume 32]Amazon was also seen at the big victory celebration party at the arc's end (sweatdropping nervously, but alive).
May I just say how much I love the cover to this volume? It's so atypical, with Luffy, Sanji and Chopper in the foreground around the picture book - not a trio e see very often otherwise, and Sanji's dreamy/nostalgic look is adorable.
[Speculation question]Wait, I know Roger had the ability to hear the voice of all things, but what's this about Luffy hearing the voice of the sea specifically? When did this come up?"a young girl named 'Mousse'" - is that the Viz spelling? Huh, it just makes me flash to the old Ranma 1/2 character (who was quite male, and in love with the character Shampoo, so there the spelling was correct). OTOH, the Swedish translation has Calgara's daughter as "Mus", which I think is okay in English but in Swedish means "mouse
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[Vol 32]Amazon: heh, I noticed this as well when I was reading 32 last night. (At this point I haven't read very far ahead of where I'm making notes, so sometimes I miss things that will be answered in the very near future.)
[Speculation, + Fishman Island]Hmm, maybe I'm confused about Luffy and Roger. I could have sworn I remembered that we learned somewhere that Luffy and Roger shared that ability, but my grasp of the later volumes is definitely fuzzy. I'm thinking particularly of the scene where Roger could hear a voice from the deep that no one else could hear, and the scene where we learn that Luffy can talk to sea kings. I assumed those two things were related, but maybe not.Viz has Musse, which just looks weird to me. I actually kind of like Mus, if you pronounce it the French way (where it also means mouse). The Japanese is ムース (Muusu), so I was going for Mousse as the closest sound equivalent
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I personally would like to see a similar word used for particularly strong female friendships - I've dabbled with "sismance" but that doesn't have a great ring...
it's a little sad that our culture so devalues male friendship that we need a completely different word to express an emotional connection that goes beyond kicking back with a beer and watching football.
I dunno. I feel as if bromance is about the narrative of a friendship rather than a preferred/superior bond. I mean, I think male friends can be "brothers" without being bromantic (Masa and Kyousuke from Kizuna, for example). The bromance kicks in when it intersects with now-classic romance/love story/fairy tale tropes...in the case of Calgara and Norland, the fact that neither have had this kind of close bond before, that they worked through an initial conflict to get there, then had a falling out due to miscommunication, only to renew their vows with the promise to meet again. *sob* I don't think acknowledging that this isn't a typical friendship in any way devalues typical male (or female or intergender) friendships. It's kind of like the distinction in Sleepless in Seattle between being in love and being in love in a movie.
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Side note on this story as a whole: I am not sure how I feel about the transparent invocation of the enlightenment vs. barbarism/colonizer vs. colonized debate. I mean, of course I'm sympathetic to Norland's point of view, but I wonder if Oda buys a little too easily into the belief that the scientist who goes around extinguishing "barbarous" customs is always right.
Hey! You totally pre-empted my complaint about this story. Thank you. Now I can focus on the love. Oh, wait, except…Norland's approach to eradicating the ancestor-trees stems from this bias, when the whole falling-out could have been averted if he had told the villagers that one of the things he and his men were doing as they explored the island was seeking lingering infestation and eradicating it. At the VERY least, don't you think he should have had a native islander imbedded in his work party to explain the island from the islanders' perspective and to learn the explorers' perspective?
That being said, is right: Calgara + Norland = the best bromance ever. (I love
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…and they trust Zoro to chop down the tree in the correct direction? ZORO?
Oddly enough Zoro seems fine with directions when it's about launching things or people in the correct one (just like he doesn't have a problem in a fight with his or his opponent's whereabouts - it's getting to the fight that's the problem). He's just like Ryoga Hibiki (Ranma 1/2 again) that way.
At the VERY least, don't you think he should have had a native islander imbedded in his work party to explain the island from the islanders' perspective and to learn the explorers' perspective?
I know, huh? Especially when they were all spending so much time hanging out together. But then he wouldn't be a prototypical colonial explorer. /facepalm
I love (erm, ironically) how Calgara and Norland acknowledge that they killed its parent and grandparent, but the make this snake their pet.
True, but in their defense, the parent and grandparent were trying to kill them. This little one just wants to dance to the bell. *hugs snake*
Communication, people. Sheesh. Absolutely agreed, that's what frustrates me most about this arc even as I'm breaking my heart over it. But at the same time, it's sort of appropriate, because really the whole story is about missed and lost opportunities to communicate. Norland coming back only to find the Shandians gone, Calgara wanting to ring the bell but not being able to, Norland's descendants never
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May I just say how much I love the cover to this volume? It's so atypical, with Luffy, Sanji and Chopper in the foreground around the picture book - not a trio e see very often otherwise, and Sanji's dreamy/nostalgic look is adorable.
[Speculation question]Wait, I know Roger had the ability to hear the voice of all things, but what's this about Luffy hearing the voice of the sea specifically? When did this come up?"a young girl named 'Mousse'" - is that the Viz spelling? Huh, it just makes me flash to the old Ranma 1/2 character (who was quite male, and in love with the character Shampoo, so there the spelling was correct). OTOH, the Swedish translation has Calgara's daughter as "Mus", which I think is okay in English but in Swedish means "mouse ( ... )
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[Speculation, + Fishman Island]Hmm, maybe I'm confused about Luffy and Roger. I could have sworn I remembered that we learned somewhere that Luffy and Roger shared that ability, but my grasp of the later volumes is definitely fuzzy. I'm thinking particularly of the scene where Roger could hear a voice from the deep that no one else could hear, and the scene where we learn that Luffy can talk to sea kings. I assumed those two things were related, but maybe not.Viz has Musse, which just looks weird to me. I actually kind of like Mus, if you pronounce it the French way (where it also means mouse). The Japanese is ムース (Muusu), so I was going for Mousse as the closest sound equivalent ( ... )
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I dunno. I feel as if bromance is about the narrative of a friendship rather than a preferred/superior bond. I mean, I think male friends can be "brothers" without being bromantic (Masa and Kyousuke from Kizuna, for example). The bromance kicks in when it intersects with now-classic romance/love story/fairy tale tropes...in the case of Calgara and Norland, the fact that neither have had this kind of close bond before, that they worked through an initial conflict to get there, then had a falling out due to miscommunication, only to renew their vows with the promise to meet again. *sob* I don't think acknowledging that this isn't a typical friendship in any way devalues typical male (or female or intergender) friendships. It's kind of like the distinction in Sleepless in Seattle between being in love and being in love in a movie. ( ... )
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Hey! You totally pre-empted my complaint about this story. Thank you. Now I can focus on the love. Oh, wait, except…Norland's approach to eradicating the ancestor-trees stems from this bias, when the whole falling-out could have been averted if he had told the villagers that one of the things he and his men were doing as they explored the island was seeking lingering infestation and eradicating it. At the VERY least, don't you think he should have had a native islander imbedded in his work party to explain the island from the islanders' perspective and to learn the explorers' perspective?
That being said, is right: Calgara + Norland = the best bromance ever. (I love ( ... )
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Oddly enough Zoro seems fine with directions when it's about launching things or people in the correct one (just like he doesn't have a problem in a fight with his or his opponent's whereabouts - it's getting to the fight that's the problem). He's just like Ryoga Hibiki (Ranma 1/2 again) that way.
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I know, huh? Especially when they were all spending so much time hanging out together. But then he wouldn't be a prototypical colonial explorer. /facepalm
I love (erm, ironically) how Calgara and Norland acknowledge that they killed its parent and grandparent, but the make this snake their pet.
True, but in their defense, the parent and grandparent were trying to kill them. This little one just wants to dance to the bell. *hugs snake*
Communication, people. Sheesh. Absolutely agreed, that's what frustrates me most about this arc even as I'm breaking my heart over it. But at the same time, it's sort of appropriate, because really the whole story is about missed and lost opportunities to communicate. Norland coming back only to find the Shandians gone, Calgara wanting to ring the bell but not being able to, Norland's descendants never ( ... )
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