Be like a duck

Oct 25, 2007 09:41

"Be like a duck. Calm on the surface, but always paddling like the dickens underneath."
- Michael CaineMany people I know, especially those I call friends, are like this. They go about accomplishing their lives with quiet grace and dignity. Their lives are rich and they do not need to put it on public display for the world to see. That is because ( Read more... )

life, self-pity, entitlement

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mobiboros October 25 2007, 15:48:01 UTC
That is a remarkably apt statement considering everything going on lately. Very well put.

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allofadoodah October 26 2007, 04:01:50 UTC
Well, of the people that heard of Sven being in the hospital (three of whom are sub-chieftains) no one contacted either him or his girlfriend at least to see how another member of the household who happens to be falling ill and eventually have surgery is doing. I don't feel it is fair to call Niqui immature or say she is throwing a tantrum when only two people in the entire household called Sven or her to find out what was going on and what condition he was in. Is that not possibly an obligation for sub-chieftains to at least further inquire about a fellow household member falling ill or a clearly upset girlfriend who is also a household member? It is one thing to consider your own needs and those of your family first but another to chastise someone for feeling a general lack of interest from those you should consider a member of the extended family who choose to belong to. Being overwhelmed in such a short period of time often does not afford a person the opportunity or frame of mind to have the forethought to reach out for help. ( ... )

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mobiboros October 26 2007, 12:53:35 UTC
Is that not possibly an obligation for sub-chieftains to at least further inquire about a fellow household member falling ill or a clearly upset girlfriend who is also a household member?

I'm not a sub-chief but I have to ask why you'd think they would be obligated to contact people who are ill to inquire about their health? Especially when some of them aren't even in the state/may have never met the people involved.

Also, the slipping in of "Clearly upset" is disingenuous. As was made fair clear in the other thread it wasn't clear at the time but only made clear after the fact due to the nature of the "Grapevine".

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allofadoodah October 26 2007, 14:06:08 UTC
But people believing that she was ready to fly from New York to Oregon doesn't raise any flags about the condition he might actually have been in ( ... )

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mobiboros October 26 2007, 14:58:10 UTC
But people believing that she was ready to fly from New York to Oregon doesn't raise any flags about the condition he might actually have been in?

Not really. Why would it? She loves him, I'd assume even something minor she'd want to be with him just as I'd want to be with my wife even for something minor.

Three sub-chieftains were in the room in New York state when Bliss told people about Sven,

No there weren't as I recall. There were only 2.

these people knew who they were talking about and all of them were once "camp mommy".

No they weren't. Of the 3 subchiefs who were even there that night only 2 have been camp mommy.

What is the point of the title if not to give responsibility to them as representatives of Turk's interests in the group?

And? How does this obligate them to call around for information? You're basically saying they are obligated to butt into people's lives. Which is not the case.

If there is cause for concern with members of the household who are sick to the degree his girlfriend would be ( ... )

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