Chill out, D. Just because you don't believe in a religion, or believe that they are misinterpreting what is happening doesn't mean you have to be so offensive. If you are the child of a loving God, and aspiring to be like Her, you should also be loving. Being outraged is not loving. You should instead feel compassion, and sad if you think it is so wrong and lost.
Interesting beliefnymiwayFebruary 3 2006, 04:35:19 UTC
First off, I would like to say that yes I am alittle offended, but your thoughts are your own. Second, it is only demons to you, the girl was being possesed by something she beleived not to be demons, and what you believe really doesn't matter in this case. If it had been a christian then as a christian you could say this, but since her religion didn't think it was demonic possetion then it wasn't.
And I would also say that the god of the bible has not always been loving and kind, there are stories of other wise in the bible. So you can't say that the christian god is nothing but loving. There is not a long history after jesus's birth in the bible like there is before it, so it is your choice weather to believe that with christs' death if that changed the way god deals with his followers, but that is a belief for you to decide.
Re: Interesting beliefmormirielFebruary 3 2006, 15:46:30 UTC
First off, your entire first paragraph is based on post-modern idea of the relativity of reality and truth. If this is truly your philosophy, then ok... but basically what you're saying is, "The world is only a sphere to me because I believe it's a sphere. If you believe it's a triangular prism, who am I to disagree? Since there is no such thing as 'Objective Truth,' I cannot."
Second, I would say that when reading the old testament, we must keep in mind that we cannot, with our finite minds, understand the motives of an infinite being. Often people do things that others think are unkind/loving. For example, one may think that it was unloving of me to force everyone to run lines with no playbooks this week in play rehearsal, but really it was a loving act. Without my encouragement in this way, the actresses would never begin (or would take too long) to develop independance from their books.
Re: Interesting beliefnymiwayFebruary 3 2006, 20:00:12 UTC
In this discussion I am not talking about the Idea of reality and truth. I am discussing faith. a lot of things in the physical world most people can determain to exist because they can use there senses and brain to tell them that it does. What I'm talking about here is ones faith. The faith in a divine that we can't prove exist, only in ones individual heart can it be proven to exist, and that belongs to the individual alone. It is a totally different concept between the reality and truth of the physical world we live in, rather then the divine one that most people believe in.
Re: Interesting beliefnymiwayFebruary 7 2006, 01:42:25 UTC
Unfortunately, the proof you are talking about is pretty much scientific evidence, and science is a religion unto itself. Senses are fallible. Most philosophers start with an idea that nothing is true, and then move from there. In the end, we cannot truly believe our senses, but they are the only tool we have to make sense of and define reality, thus we must believe them if we are to advance from the "Nothing is true" statement
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And I would also say that the god of the bible has not always been loving and kind, there are stories of other wise in the bible. So you can't say that the christian god is nothing but loving. There is not a long history after jesus's birth in the bible like there is before it, so it is your choice weather to believe that with christs' death if that changed the way god deals with his followers, but that is a belief for you to decide.
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Second, I would say that when reading the old testament, we must keep in mind that we cannot, with our finite minds, understand the motives of an infinite being. Often people do things that others think are unkind/loving. For example, one may think that it was unloving of me to force everyone to run lines with no playbooks this week in play rehearsal, but really it was a loving act. Without my encouragement in this way, the actresses would never begin (or would take too long) to develop independance from their books.
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