Concerning Ligers and Tigons:

Dec 30, 2004 11:48

There is some question as to the authenticity of the existence of Ligers and Tigons ( Read more... )

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inspectorxero December 30 2004, 18:34:06 UTC
i found this detailed site that also goes into the nomenclature of "half-half lions" etc.
Li-liger? hmm.

interesting to see that no male liger has been born fertile.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/ligers2.html

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sathariel December 30 2004, 18:58:49 UTC
I think it is pretty settled that ligers are real.

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channonyarrow December 30 2004, 18:44:28 UTC
They're a mule species, additionally, unable to reproduce themselves due to sterility. So they're not common, but they've been being bred - god alone knows WHY - for about...ten years, I think? Don't know if any of your sites have gone into that.

And I can barely see the whiskers on that one picture. I suppose there's no reason like sunlight or the angle of the camera that they'd have been visually cut off even if they were there?

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sathariel December 30 2004, 18:58:27 UTC
The first picture really does look photoshopped to me, for a lot of reasons I'm not at liberty to explain because it's before 2pm and I've had two Guinness. But trust me, it looks shady.

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inspectorxero December 30 2004, 21:17:43 UTC
on a completely different topic, i lost your # (effing again..i never program it in my phone), the kathleen new years party has been cancelled. her father died of cancer (and the resultant chemo). she wanted me to pass the word along to you as she doesn't have your #.

she is doing ok, seems more relieved that he's done with being in pain and what.
be well.

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sathariel January 1 2005, 22:15:40 UTC
That blows. What a time to die, the holidays. Ah well, at least there's no more suffering.

I've got her, and your number around. maybe the lot of us can go out for dinner or something soon.

BTW: 330 - 212 - 0902

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habergrrl January 1 2005, 21:31:48 UTC
You convinced me that I should keep researching ( ... )

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sathariel January 1 2005, 22:12:15 UTC
There's evidence of a tiger-like animal that lived in Africa in Roman times, that had brown stripes and was somewhat smaller than a lion. I think Cicero mentions them in one of his letters.

From what I have read, ligers and tiglons tend to be sterile, or have a limited level of fertility, so they're like mules and other crossbred species. Donkeys and horses, stuff like that. That tigers and lions come from the same ancestor is pretty obvious, but remember that there used to be lions in Iran within human history (and Germany and Greece fer chrissakes). The difference between India and Iran is not so great that the species never had contact.

Other interesting hybrids I've found: sheep + goat = "geep". Ugly bastards. Leopards and puma/jaguar crossbreeds make laguars or something. Same thing... jags are from S. America, leopards from Africa, have been separated for millions of years.

An interesting new facet to my reality, that's all.

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