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[scatterheart]

This is just something I was thinking about while browsing the flist, and I realized that I know about most, but not nearly all of you. So for future reference, please tell me:

Poll

For those who are as "awake" as I am right now: This is about how you want people to refer to you, not about the sound of them or anything. Just in case that wasn't clear

Comments

[snuffkin]

hmm when writing about people in general (and trying to stay gender neutral) I prefer using they/they're. Even though I really don't have a problem using he/his as a general term (esp. in German)

when talking about me I prefer she/hers lol So I really didn't know which one to tick. :O And this is the first time I came across Ze/Hir, btw. :O how do you even pronounce it?

I'm not nearly awake enough for this :O

[scatterheart]

So I really didn't know which one to tick. :O
I was asking about how you want people to refer to yourself, so you'd pick "she/hers". ;)

And this is the first time I came across Ze/Hir, btw.
Yeah, gender-neutral pronouns are not very common yet, sadly. I pronounce it "seh" and, well, "hir" - I'm not sure if there's an "official" way, actually.

[snuffkin]

I was asking about how you want people to refer to yourself, so you'd pick "she/hers". ;)

haha ja, I think I get that now *g* After a large mug of coffee ♥

Yeah, gender-neutral pronouns are not very common yet, sadly. I pronounce it "seh" and, well, "hir" - I'm not sure if there's an "official" way, actually.

That reminds me that I'm probably the only person on earth who remembers the time they invented a German word for having drunk enough to not feel thirsty anymore O_O "sit" IDEK why I remember that *sigh*

[scatterheart]

Hah, no, I remember that, too. I'm not surprised that it never stuck, though - you can't invent a word and go "Ok, now everybody use this to refer to something that you've referred to as something else all your life!" Changes like that need to happen gradually.

[bitter_crimson]

For my "other", I am good with any truly gender-neutral pronouns. Things like s/he or she/he don't count b/c those are still rooted in the gender binary and thus I don't view them as actual gender-neutral pronouns, though some attempt to pain them that way.

And yeah, I frequently use the sie/hir thing, though it's occurred to me before (and been pointed out to me by others) the issue with confusion with German. IDK, maybe we should all speak Finnish. I forget the pronoun, but someone on my flist who's Finnish told me of a truly GNP native to the Finnish language. I'll have to look it up.

But anywho, I will attempt to remember to associate ze/hir or zie/hir with you. Maybe I will just switch to using zie/hir for myself as well instead of sie/hir, to avoid the German issues. OH PRONOUNS, ALWAYS A GOOD TIME.

[scatterheart]

Things like s/he or she/he don't count b/c those are still rooted in the gender binary and thus I don't view them as actual gender-neutral pronouns
Yeah, I agree.

maybe we should all speak Finnish.
We should anyway, it's such a cool language. :D But we'd probably fail miserably. However, I'm so intrigued by languages that have actual GNPs in everyday use - it's so hard to imagine even for me.

But anywho, I will attempt to remember to associate ze/hir or zie/hir with you.
That would be great! I'm always a bit worried about, like, imposing on people, because I've gone by female pronouns for so long and it's not like I'm the posterperson for genderfuck. /o\

[bitter_crimson]

You and I both know the futility of trying to be the poster-perfect "ideal" of some thing! :)

[scatterheart]

Good point! :D

[honeybearbee]

'Das' is neutral, right? But it's not exactly a pronoun. There's 'es', but I guess that's more of an it.

And my German teacher would be so mad that I can't remember all my pronouns.

[scatterheart]

Yeah, "das" is "that"/"this", pretty much, and while there is a small, small minority of genderqueer people who are trying to claim the "es", it's really more for referring to animals or objects.

Why? You remembered everything, as far as I can tell!

[honeybearbee]

I was trying to think of the others, for examples, and my mind blanked after Sie. /o\

[scatterheart]

I'm not even sure there is an "official" pronunciation, really. I say "seh" (although I think others use "zee", but that sounds too much like the German "sie" for me) and "hir" like "his" with an r.

[shiroi_chi]

I haven't identified 100% female for ages but I still identify with the feminine pronoun--not a girl, but a she, you know? It's hard to separate which part of that is habit, if not all.

And, I promise to try and remember to adjust my pronouns--please point it out when I inevitably forget? It really shouldn't be the responsibility of the person who wishes an unconventional pronoun used for them, obvs, but I'm a glacially slow learner...

[scatterheart]

I think I know what you mean. *nods*

And seriously, it would be cool if people used "ze", but I'm totally fine with "she", too - especially when I know you know about and respect my gender issues, and the "she" is just a word instead of a category I get put in by default, you know?