Show Me The Ropes

[septemberoses]

Title: Show Me the Ropes
Author: Septemberoses
Fandom: True Blood/(En Forelskelse crossover)
Characters: Eric/Carsten, then Godric/Eric
Rating: NC-17 for bondage, non-con, dub-con, games, plotless porn, angst, toys, abuse
Summary: Some desires are easier to satisfy than others. And there are consequences, anticipated and otherwise.
Word Count: 6,

Comments

[clodiametelli]

I was nearly too scared by the warnings to read this but I'm glad I did - I love the contrast between how careful and tender Eric is with Carsten to the hardcore brutality the vampires can safely give and take between themselves because their relationship has lasted centuries and they can't really hurt each other.

[septemberoses]

I've gotten a couple of gentle criticisms recently about warning, particularly for things that are non-con, so I'm erring on the side of over-warning, but really, I think parts of this fic are very sweet, and it's hard to convey that in the summary. I hate writing those summaries. And yes, that contrast between the two relationships was interesting to think through.

[clodiametelli]

I don't think you're over warning - I normally avoid non-con as such and don't want it sprung on me, but in this case I felt Godric could have stopped those things happening to him if he'd really wanted to so wasn't too squeamish about that - I found the story where Eric was playing with the reluctant hotel boy harder to deal with because he really didn't want to be there - you're right it's very hard to convery those crucial nuances in a summary and everyone has their own buttons.

[septemberoses]

Yep -- you see what I'm up against here ... *I* knew the hotel boy was actually Godric, but if I warn for that up front, then that spoils the tension for a lot of people - it defeats the construct, which is surprise. But if you don't know it's Godric, well, then, it's dub-con at best.

Similarly with this one ... you're right, and I actually discussed this with another writer :) -- in my mind, Godric could have pulled himself together and fought Eric off if he'd wanted to badly enough, so I'd label that dub-con rather than non-con, but let's face it -- on another level it's more or less rape. Since this is clearly a trigger issue for some, I'm trying to find the balance. In these types of stories, it's tricky.

[quiche1206]

Oh Thank you. I have been patiently waiting for a Carsten/Eric story. Love the Eric/Godric inclusion. I see what you mean about Eric being careful with Carsten
when his true nature can be decidedly brutal. Wonderful follow up to the story and mentioning the bar/handcuff incident. This little boy has some interesting kinks.

[septemberoses]

Aha, you're following my larger plotlines! I love weaving the stories together like that. And honestly ... the more I think about and develop Carsten, if he's going to have any kind of genuine relationship with Eric, on some level I think he's got to be a willing pervert. And I love tender!Eric so much.

[riaki]

Yay!You are back!

I love your Carsten for being such a lil' perv and always eager to try out new things. And Eric was born to be a Master, clearly, a thoughtful one. Was that Japanese bondage?- I am always curious, lol, pay no heed.

Your writing is much more lyrical when writing Godric/Eric, kind of balances out the harshness of it all. Loved the desert images and metaphors...Excellent job overall <3

*off to listen to some NIN now*

[septemberoses]

Here I am. The bondage -- I redid that several times. As a fic, it just worked better if Carsten wasn't actually tied to the bed, so that Eric and I could get our jobs done. TBH I just think of Eric as someone with a lot of experience in this department and a good knowledge of various rope-tying techniques :)

The Godric POV is in fact more lyrical because that's the voice I hear in my head when I'm writing him... he mixes all sorts of things together, past and present, and his mind sometimes wanders the way the minds of the very old will do. Carsten's young and eager and thinks about sex and is more straightforward, his own funny mix of naive and wise.

[flwrpwr_vampyre]

Wow, this is hardcore. Eric and Carsten were so intense together, you could feel the emotions between them. Then the switch to Godric, wow. I love it. *is a bit speechless*

[septemberoses]

Was it okay? I couldn't decide. I know you like your porn a little more h-core, and I needed to keep it tender(ish) with Carsten. The rape-y bit with Godric came out of absolutely nowhere, it was wild, they were just supposed to argue!

[flwrpwr_vampyre]

It was fantastic. You did an amazing job. I do like hardcore but I also like hardcore between two people who trust each other completely and are exploring their kinks safely. Delicious to read.

[septemberoses]

There was something about this ... I just reread it. You know my kinks as well as anyone, and DAMN. The whole idea of Eric teaching Carsten this way, the safeword, "exploring their kinks safely" as you put it, was this huge UNF for me, I still don't understand why. I guess what I mean is, it ended up surprising me. It went from "fic idea" to WHOA. I bet that has happened to you when you write too.

[devohoneybee]

gorgeous. would say more, but you took me right to the wordless place. *nom*

[septemberoses]

Having wandered Godric into the desert I'm having trouble getting him to leave again! He and Eric should visit Santa Fe again. Or go camping or something.