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Jan 22, 2005 12:40

It is in my opinion, that the idea of suffering is all about perception ( Read more... )

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ex_iam138 January 23 2005, 00:15:04 UTC
I think for me the point is this ( ... )

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shadedmelody January 23 2005, 00:41:45 UTC
Hi Col...

Very interesting and true dialogue going on there. I have a lot of respect for the Buddhist teachings. I agree, life in itself is a survival of the fittest. In some form or another, there is constant suffering, whether aware or not; closed off or open.

I'm always humbled when you share a part of yourself here. Thank you.

Yeah, it seems to be a battle of head and hearts actually...because I do see a lot of hearts working hard, especially more recently. Angels and Demons, lol....

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ex_iam138 January 23 2005, 00:21:09 UTC
Really any spiritual school now has a responsibility to not just train to transcend the world but to nurture one's wound. Nurturing one's own wound heals the whole world.

The whole expresses itself through us daily in an effort to gain that love.

Love creates heaven on earth. But we must love ourselves to do it. Acknowledging our pain is self love. It's meditative. It can be a meditation.

blah blah woof!:-)

Collie go wash the dishes.
Soap opering today.
:-)

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shadedmelody January 23 2005, 00:44:53 UTC
It takes great courage to acknowledge pain, I have learned. And I have also learned how difficult and powerful it is to even nurture one's own wounds. For me, it's an ongoing process, but I am lucky for all of my lessons, even where I have lost...

Again, thank you...I take your words to heart.

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ex_iam138 January 23 2005, 01:02:24 UTC
It just gave me a chance to vent honey. It's a big lesson for the world. Seriously.

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willower January 23 2005, 05:53:03 UTC
The Tom Robbins is a very fitting quote. And suffering is all about perception. Every thing is all about how one perceives them.

How's the blizzard? And if you camp in front of the fireplace, I should like to come with a warm chocolate milk and marshmallows on it.

Love.

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shadedmelody January 23 2005, 20:51:00 UTC
Hello you...

And thank you for saying hello before the storm! It wasn't so bad, actually. Only I think 12-15 inches or so. They cleaned it all pretty well, so I can't really tell how bad it was.

And in any case- I feel that I said my peace. And on to better things, like hot chocolate and s'mores~ Come on over!

<3
( I'm emailing you back finally. Sorry for the delay. Love you

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willower January 23 2005, 23:12:43 UTC
Ah~ I come with hot chocolate and s'mores, and gladly! :)

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mysticchyna January 23 2005, 22:39:25 UTC
of course i have to be the token "poison pill" in here, but here is my opinion.
I *sort of* agree with this suffering is a matter of perception thing. but it is also subjective.
honeslty, missing ones bus or train is NOT suffering, it is an INCONVIENENCE...and people like to piss and moan about the trite. BUT...if missing that bus/train lead one to be dreadfully late to a hospital to visit a sick parent...who died in surgery and the person didn't get to see the parent..yea that is an element of suffering. it depends, and is overt.

poor example, but you get the idea.

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shadedmelody January 23 2005, 23:23:11 UTC
No, not a poison pill, I think. In fact, what I got from your comment was something quite parallel to the point I was trying to make. Suffering is absolutely subjective- people that lives with depression or Bipolar or just unresolved grief from 3 year or 30 years....it's internal stimuli that counts the most. Most of the time, there are just too many projections going around- like, person A has a crappy life, I think they are suffering (but perhaps they are content)...and person B, who has financial wealth and popularity may appear they have no reason to suffer, but we don't really know wat's going on side them or what their past may be...so it's a very delusive subject.

Not a poor example, it opened me up to thinking just how tricky the word "suffering" really is. I'm sorry to hear you've been in a similar situation with this person.

Thank you!

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Re: NEW LJ shadedmelody January 26 2005, 02:02:03 UTC
Gotcha. And yes, this is you now. I'm happy to see it too!

~g

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