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drjamez February 20 2009, 00:23:01 UTC
True, but you're using logic in an area where logic cannot be used. ;-)

Besides, it's apparently OK to have billboards and other signs advertising for one God or another. It's easy to hate the non-believer, just as it is easy to hate any minority. Unfortunately. (I actually have a belief on just this matter: the same thought process that allows one to condemn athiesism is the same process used to hate blacks, gays, other religions, etc. But, until we can accurately map the mind and the thoughts contained within, it's just a belief.)

- James -

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shadohrt February 20 2009, 13:51:54 UTC
I disagree. Logic can be used with respect to applying rules and laws.

Logic cannot be used to determine faith... But we've had that discussion before.

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drjamez February 20 2009, 14:52:27 UTC
Well, on one hand I suppose logic can be "used" superficially, but on the other hand logic won't be effective in any way, shape, or form when discussing the core of religious matters ( ... )

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shadohrt February 20 2009, 15:05:14 UTC
I see your point... and, again, we are not in disagreement.

No amount of logic will change their minds on their faith. BUT, the rules by which they allow their faith to interact with society fall within rules. Those rules have an inherent level of logic (even if low and/or poor) that is consistently applied.

So, by the logic of their statement on how the non-god believers are offensive to them one can say that, by the same reasoning, god-believers are offensive to those who do not believe.

I am not saying we can change anyone's mind.. I was just noticing the irony of the quoted segment.

I agree, that the billboards should be allowed. They are no more offensive than ones that try to bolster congregations through fear of eternal damnation.

Apparently, though, we are still too primitive of a species to be able to accept a lack of faith as equal to a faith.

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