Totally agree. When Jon was stressing over and over the unimportance of people like Barbra Streisand I couldn't help but completely agree. Why is it that a celebrity's comments are treated with more regard than a politician's? Celebrities may have impact upon people, individuals but I don't think they have much of a strong hold in Congress.
I just read a small article yesterday stating that Maggie Gyllenhaal didn't want to comment on anything political because she said once that in a way, Americans are partially responsible for what happened on 9/11. Um, so she's not entitled to her own opinion? I think everyone's entitled to say something and not have it misconstrued by the media.
I was glad that Jon Stewart was disagreeing with his guest because it really riled him up and tried to make his point (failed but, tried). Let's have him on again!
I completely agree with everything you said except for "Jon Stewart was a little meaner than necessary". I don't think he was even a little bit mean and I can't fathom what all of the fuss is. And no, I'm not a diehard fangrrl who thinks everything he says/does is gold.
My perspective, and I think it's Jon's as well, is that if you're going to have the audacity to write a book and seek to tell us who we are, who is "hurting" us and how we should live our lives then you'd bloody well be able to defend your position and your choices. If you say stupid shit like, "there was a time when no one said the F word in a bar", then you deserve to be skewered. Goldberg KNOWS better than that but it sells in the Red states and gets the neocons to be his friend. He's not as naive as he claims.
Well, I think in this aspect, and Jon was aware of this, he was "performing" to a vlearly biased audience. Also, he is smarter and funnier than Goldberg, and therefore coming at him full force was a little bit like unfair.
In addition, I think courtney_beth said it about his Crossfire performance, there's the matter of expectations. The guy thought he was there to promote his book, and was attacked.
But, as I said, I am completely fine with the fact that he was attacked because he deserved it.
Goldberg KNOWS better than that
ITA with that. I think he was putting on an act, and he himself doesn't believe a word he said that night, and possibly doesn't even believe what he wrote in the book. I mean, he goes off about people using expletives, but John said "shit" and "fuck" next to him repeatedly, and he didn't even blink. In fact, he laughed.
In addition, I think courtney_beth said it about his Crossfire performance, there's the matter of expectations. The guy thought he was there to promote his book, and was attacked.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this. There's no way Bernie Goldberg was either surprised or unprepared for either the audience's reaction nor Jon's questions. BG has been at this game a lot longer than Jon... he was a news correspondant for CBS for about 30 years. He's given it out for years.
There's no possible way that a guy as media-savvy as Goldberg - he even wrote a book about bias in the media, for heavens sake - was unaware of TDS and what would happen. You can't seriously think he's never heard of the Crossfire incident? He knew what he was in for and probably hoped for that reaction to get more fuel for his "biased liberal media" ideas.
Maybe it's my advanced age of 38 ;-) but I've seen this game played so many times that I'm not surprised. No one knows more about how to use the media to further his cause than Bernie
Goldberg was not attacked. His book was criticized. Questioning, and in general, being criticial of someone's work is quite common in academic circles, and he was not attacking goldberg at all.
What I found really bad with the whole racial slur thing and them not bleeping them out, later in the show Goldberg does actually say n***** and it got bleeped out then. Which just makes that all the worse...
I completely agree with you, but really I don't think Jon was really being mean, he was just asserting his point of view at many points...
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I just read a small article yesterday stating that Maggie Gyllenhaal didn't want to comment on anything political because she said once that in a way, Americans are partially responsible for what happened on 9/11. Um, so she's not entitled to her own opinion? I think everyone's entitled to say something and not have it misconstrued by the media.
I was glad that Jon Stewart was disagreeing with his guest because it really riled him up and tried to make his point (failed but, tried). Let's have him on again!
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My perspective, and I think it's Jon's as well, is that if you're going to have the audacity to write a book and seek to tell us who we are, who is "hurting" us and how we should live our lives then you'd bloody well be able to defend your position and your choices. If you say stupid shit like, "there was a time when no one said the F word in a bar", then you deserve to be skewered. Goldberg KNOWS better than that but it sells in the Red states and gets the neocons to be his friend. He's not as naive as he claims.
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In addition, I think courtney_beth said it about his Crossfire performance, there's the matter of expectations. The guy thought he was there to promote his book, and was attacked.
But, as I said, I am completely fine with the fact that he was attacked because he deserved it.
Goldberg KNOWS better than that
ITA with that. I think he was putting on an act, and he himself doesn't believe a word he said that night, and possibly doesn't even believe what he wrote in the book. I mean, he goes off about people using expletives, but John said "shit" and "fuck" next to him repeatedly, and he didn't even blink. In fact, he laughed.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this. There's no way Bernie Goldberg was either surprised or unprepared for either the audience's reaction nor Jon's questions. BG has been at this game a lot longer than Jon... he was a news correspondant for CBS for about 30 years. He's given it out for years.
There's no possible way that a guy as media-savvy as Goldberg - he even wrote a book about bias in the media, for heavens sake - was unaware of TDS and what would happen. You can't seriously think he's never heard of the Crossfire incident? He knew what he was in for and probably hoped for that reaction to get more fuel for his "biased liberal media" ideas.
Maybe it's my advanced age of 38 ;-) but I've seen this game played so many times that I'm not surprised. No one knows more about how to use the media to further his cause than Bernie
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Questioning, and in general, being criticial of someone's work is quite common in academic circles, and he was not attacking goldberg at all.
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I completely agree with you, but really I don't think Jon was really being mean, he was just asserting his point of view at many points...
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