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[shreena]

Sigh. 
Why are the husbands being apologised to?  Either Sir Allen's physical affection towards the women was acceptable to them or it wasn't.  In the former case, no apology is necessary; in the latter, the women should be given the apology.  In neither case does it seem to me that the husbands should be angry with anyone other than, perhaps,

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[cartesiandaemon]

(a) What a ridiculous situation. Crap. What you said! (b) OTOH if you and X cuddle together totally consensually, and Mr/Mrs X is upset, do you owe them an apology, or does X, or both? It's just normally not on national TV...

[secretrebel]

Oh dear lord.

[motodraconis]

Well, I'm not poly, so if someone (male or female) started groping my partner while knowing that I was their partner I'd bloody well expect an apology. Of course I'd be expecting some kind of apology from my partner too.
But then I'm not a poly person, and don't do open relationship things, and I'm also very strict with myself about touching or being sexual with other peoples partners. If someone is attached, they're out of bounds to me.

[shreena]

The thing that disturbs me is that it's indicated in several reports that his advances to the women were unwelcome. But he hasn't apologised to them, he's apologised to their husbands/boyfriends. If someone sexually harrasses me, I damn well expect the apology to be made to me, not to my husband.

[motodraconis]

Ah, I didn't pick up on that bit, I tend not to sit on peoples laps when I'm annoyed at them harrassing me, (I'll shout, slap or plain leave, but not sit on their lap or let them pull me onto their laps?!) I know some people can be easily pushed around but that seems quite extreme.

[shreena]

I agree, the doormattish seems quite extreme.. but, whichever way you take it, the dialogue seems to be between the players and Sir Allan, the women are not there at all. And that's basically 'cause they aren't important.

[biascut]

Between that and the Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross/Andrew Sachs thing, there's a bit too much "heterosex is something that men do at other men" in the air at the moment.

[oedipamaas49]

Well, apologising to the husbands for distracting them during their game seems reasonable enough. But missing the main point somewhat.