Are Greedy Teachers the Problem?

Feb 02, 2012 22:24

I think public speaking is a valuable skill that should be taught in school. As a future teacher, I hope to train my students in many areas, including public speaking. In my opinion, part of being a good speaker is taking time to do some research on your topic and learning how to process information logically ( Read more... )

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soprano1790 February 3 2012, 05:42:40 UTC
Ok first of all, I'm taking a sort of public speaking class right now, and it's very informative like you said. I think all students would benefit from learning how to public speak ( ... )

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 13:55:01 UTC
If someone does not feel led to teach, I think it is best that they pick another career (as you are ( ... )

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soprano1790 February 3 2012, 20:41:05 UTC
Yes and no about stuff being available in audio and other formats. Some things are... If you are looking for books to read for pleasure, then you can pretty much find what you need in audio or text formats. In college, it's much more difficult to find the exact book the exact edition.

I don't know if they were bad necissarily, but they were certainly clueless, and not all of them were. Most of them wanted to do things right but didn't know how. That's great until you get a student who doesn't know how to advocate.

I hope you enjoy that class. And lol they always have silly names.

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 21:52:54 UTC
Do you think a teacher should teach students with disabilities to advocate for themselves?

If so, do you have any ideas on how teachers should do that?

I appreciate any thoughts you might have on this. It may help my future students:)

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marjory February 3 2012, 13:40:08 UTC
I read about that guy and thought, "Oh-oh! Another false prophet!"

It never ceases to annoy me how much the Christian Right attempt to subvert a religion to their own ends, a religion which preaches 'love thy neighbour' etc. etc. when their very words and deeds belie it all. Christianity is meant to be about love and striving, not censure and smugness.

If Jesus would really be an ultra-capitalist (sic sic sic), then all I can say to this guy is that he should look at one of the more worldly tenets: Pay peanuts, get monkeys. The crop of those who would become gifted, resourceful and engaged teachers is naturally diminished by poor pay and working conditions. No-one goes into it for the money, but who would willingly enter a job with so much stress for so few returns?

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 14:00:40 UTC
I love your phrase: "Pay peanuts, get monkeys." So much truth in four words! I need to remember that saying.

The older I get the more carefully I analyze how what people say line up with their actions. Unfortunately, many people seemed trained to agree with anyone who uses certain buzz words (like certain religious phrases).

I think there is some value in religion but one issue I have with many religious groups is that we (I would count myself as a child in this) are taught "Don't question, take it on faith, etc." It is a lack of questioning that leads to problems.

Good citizens should question and analyze what their leaders say. People should question and test whether ideas truly work in a real life setting.

Simple science tells us how much our childhood can shape us, both for good and for "evil." With science in mind, I definitely think it would be valuable to spread money into areas like education, where those experiences have lifelong payback.

You make some really good points!

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soprano1790 February 3 2012, 20:43:36 UTC
I agree with you completely. As Christians, we are taught to love, taught to be fair to those around us.

Oh, and I've never heard of that biblicle principle he's talking about.

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 21:48:08 UTC
I agree, it sounds like he should also do more Biblical research before he quotes from the Bible.

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adoptedwriter February 3 2012, 14:11:39 UTC
That guy is an ass simple as that. AW

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 18:19:47 UTC
I appreciate your candor:)

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imafarmgirl February 3 2012, 14:45:55 UTC
Well said. He really sounds like an idiot. Education needs all the help it can get.

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similiesslip February 3 2012, 18:20:33 UTC
I wish you were running for office:) Thanks for commenting!

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Tradition sikander7 February 3 2012, 19:29:21 UTC
Sadly the teaching profession is one where it is still assumed that people would take a vow of chastity and poverty, rather like religious priests.
As a result, it is assumed that teachers do the job for love and fulfillment, without thinking about money or any other reward. I am not saying that I am a teacher for money, but obviously I do need to pay rent, buy food and pay for car repairs.

It is interesting to compare to other professions. Doctors may vow to heal, but they are not expected to seek out the sick. In fact, doctors are more likely to found in rich areas of cities than poor, in rich countries than poor. No one says that doctors should heal for the love of it, and it is accepted that they need to get paid buckets of hard cash.

Yet many doctors only deal with a few cases a day. I deal with over a hundred students a day, and am supposed to give individualized attention to each one.

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Re: Tradition similiesslip February 3 2012, 21:41:24 UTC
I admire you for continuing to teach. And yes, teachers need to make a living wage, even if they enjoy their job.

Personally, I really wish my kids' teachers were paid more. Money can ease some worries and I'd like for my kids' teachers to be as happy as possible.

Governments do overspend on some things but I don't believe teacher's salaries are ever a place to skimp.

Thank you for your perspective, as someone who is actually living with and experiencing the issues I mentioned.

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