Which format of answerpatriot_gamesAugust 12 2006, 06:22:47 UTC
Well that security analyst is right. In fact shoot a bullet and the aircraft fuselage is punctured. You're not gonna have explosive decompression like in every hollywood movie ever made. But the cabin will depress to the pressure at the altitude where the plane is flying at, even with that cig pack of explosives.
So which version would you like about why it is easy to blow up airplanes? The technical, the political, or both?
Re: Which format of answerpatriot_gamesAugust 12 2006, 20:03:14 UTC
Well the entire thing about blowing up airplanes isn’t anything new. In fact and old quote goes something like ever since man created the airplane and desired to fly there has been the guy next door who desires to bring them back down. They happen all the time. In fact in the 1970s while my dad was a cop for SDPD some guy hijacked a plane and threatened to blow it up while landing at the airport up on Otay Mesa, he landed at the TJ airport instead which is why no one heard of it. Some more famous incidents include the Lockerbie Scotland bombing of a PanAm 747
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Technically blowing up an airliner is harder than it sounds. But its always a race and because we will forever be on the defensive it’s a challenge for us to prevent the next idea for how to destroy stuff. Who knows maybe terrorists will start using Snakes on a Plane! But in all seriousness, planes fly at high altitudes in order to take advantage of less wind resistance from there being less air particles up there, it helps to save on gas and fly faster. When flying at these high altitudes with less air around the outside of the airplane the inside needs to be kept at a reasonable pressure so the passengers don’t pass out due to oxygen asphyxiation. This pressure is of around 3-5,000 feet, so there are some heavy duty forces on an airframe when it is keeping an internal pressure of that while the outside pressure is that of around 30-45,000 feet. Now what happens with a bullet shot is that it breeches this cylinder of air and all the air rushes out of the aircraft trying to equalize, and then at that point you have those oxygen masks
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yeah but i'm just wondering why the nice, flamible fuel isn't better protected. the aforemntioned cigarette pack-sized bomb just punctured and ignighted the jet fuel. something about that seems wrong to me. i assume its just because airplanes weren't designed with such things in mind at first but nowadays you can't be too careful. i'm thinking better protection for the fuselage is in order. i don't want to be flying somewhere and have to worry about some douche bag with an agenda blowing me up over the atlantic.
Well the nice flamable fuel is fairly well protected. Most of it is stored in the wings away from the fusalage but there is some that is stored underneath the passengers. JP-5 and Jet A which are the primary Jet fuelas used by commercial airliners are pretty stable and take quite a bit to get them lit up. And yes you are right about design planning. Most of these aircraft were designed in the 60s and 70s and cigarette bombs were not the problem. But from probabbility stand point your car is more likely to blow up from some manufacturing error rather than an airplane with a cigarette bomb. And yeah better protection for the fusalage would be good but there is the business and technical problems associated with that. If you take down your fleet of aircraft to be retrofitted you'll lose all your money and employees. From a technical standpoint adding all that weight of kevlar or something for reinforcement negates the lift created by the wings and all you have is a really big car that makes alot of noise. And just for a comparison the
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yeah i figured weight would be an issue. but planes are big. some planes are huge. so a slightly heavier fusalage would just mean a slightly bigger plane which would mean slightly more passengers which would mean slightly more money for the airlines. you wouldn't have to ground the fleet either. just decommission the planes after a while and rebuild them. like when you put a "sell by" date on something. just be like "all planes built before 1960 will be grounded until they can be retrofitted." and then repeat that a little at a time until you catch up and everything is redone. perhaps i just don't know enough about the efforts required in airplaine building but it doesn't seem that hard with proper planning.
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you wouldn't have to ground the fleet either. just decommission the planes after a while and rebuild them. like when you put a "sell by" date on something. just be like "all planes built before 1960 will be grounded until they can be retrofitted." and then repeat that a little at a time until you catch up and everything is redone. perhaps i just don't know enough about the efforts required in airplaine building but it doesn't seem that hard with proper planning.
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