no salvation? no forgiveness?

Nov 16, 2004 22:34

It would be wrong to declare that, "I received the Lord," three weeks ago. It would be right to say that I finally recognize the voice that has been with me since my youth (as opposed to the voice(s) that I began hearing two years ago, which I would now declare as my enemy; as His enemy). That voice does not come from my Spirit. That voice is my ( Read more... )

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yeah, why not? Shaktipat! anonymous November 25 2004, 11:44:03 UTC
"Abbot Lot came to Abbot Joseph and said:
'I keep my little fast, my prayer, meditation and contemplative silence
and according as I am able
I strive to cleanse my heart of thoughts;
now what more should I do?'
The Elder rose up in reply
and stretched out his hands to heaven
and his fingers became like ten lamps of fire.
He said: 'Why not be totally changed into fire?'"

--Verba Senorium, 4th Century Desert Father
quoted in "LOVE, THE ARCHITECT OF THE SOUL," ed by RJT

Yeah, why not?
Shaktipat!

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yeah, why not? Shaktipat! anonymous November 25 2004, 11:46:11 UTC
"Abbot Lot came to Abbot Joseph and said:
'I keep my little fast, my prayer, meditation and contemplative silence
and according as I am able
I strive to cleanse my heart of thoughts;
now what more should I do?'
The Elder rose up in reply
and stretched out his hands to heaven
and his fingers became like ten lamps of fire.
He said: 'Why not be totally changed into fire?'"

--Verba Senorium, 4th Century Desert Father
quoted in "LOVE, THE ARCHITECT OF THE SOUL," ed by RJT

Yeah, why not?
Shaktipat!

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sioux_zq_buckle December 6 2004, 17:37:02 UTC
Why not be totally changed into fire? I often find myself wondering the same thing... there is a poetic sincerity in the idea, but I stand semi-fast by the fact that I am, as a matter of fact, of the earth. To become fire would be to have been judged, and in so having been judged, to no longer stand as one called from dust, but as the very judgment itself. I think there is a flaw in Christ's Decree of the kingdom of the heavens, in that often times we judge by what we have already been judged, and we measure with what we have already been measured, and not the other way around. The oneness that we Christians lay so much claim to is absolved in our corporate nature. We stand as the Body of Christ, and yet we justify for ourselves individual endeavouring by separating the spirit from the earth.. as if the two weren't married.

Hmm... what is "Shaktipat?"

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