one thing i like about the comm is that it's one of the few places where certain behaviour is called out, but then there are really horrible fail posts that upset me so much. like, be glad you missed the trans-racial adoption post x-posted from womanist musings, it was x9000 worse than this
Elle <3 Sorry for the lateness too :( sisterjuneAugust 28 2010, 01:19:25 UTC
Agreed, It's not a bad community by any means but I was feeling ranty and wanted to vent but really it's one of the better places around. I do feel frustrated sometimes that there is a bias to those with maybe more social issues classes or reading under their belts, and while that does make sense in part, I dont think I need a degree or to have read many books to understand oppression as someone who has experienced it many times for various things from all sorts of people. hell you should hear what my friend told me the other day. So it makes the fail posts that do happen (oh do they fail) all the more infuriating cause it's like, you guys should DEFINITELY know better. But there you are. Oh man I didnt see that post, is still up on the comm? I am kind of curious about it now.
What I was interested in this post was the implied connection between the performance of femininity and the male attention? Which, I really do think is what she's *getting* at, but because she wasn't using the 'correct' terminology (as you said, everyone seems to be obsessed with the isms and the technicalities), everyone just picked it apart. Really, we forget that in a society where being 'pretty' is a very...specific thing, being pretty actually has a lot to do with how much you're willing to perform prettiness/femininity (not that it's always a choice...as there are professions/spheres that reward/punish women according to how well they do with that.)
And racism (whether it's an inability to look past one's race or willful ignorance of the racial difference) is somehow always more disappointing when coming from feminists? Because I do consider feminism to be my safe place in many ways, and then it's all *headdesk* .
sorry this is super long -_- sisterjuneAugust 28 2010, 17:16:26 UTC
Yeah exactly I noticed that too and thought it was a compelling point. Unfortunately because Karnythia didnt walk on eggshells when she wrote her post, people refused to see even the slightest merit in it and pulled out the claws. I find it irritating the way people immediately felt that this post which runs counter to their experiences was a direct attack and invalidation on their own struggles. How is that? Women come in all shapes sizes and colors and class backgrounds, we all have differing experiences living in a patriarchal society but at the end of the day, we all still live in that society, together. The way women will turn on each other, even in the FEMINIST comm is just demoralizing and frustrating to say the least. Karnythia is not the enemy here, it's society that should be criticized for even making women in the first place feel they have to be beautiful or that men's attention is what they need to be validated, and those women who get it, even when they dont WANT it, are apparently our enemy or at least could never
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one thing i like about the comm is that it's one of the few places where certain behaviour is called out, but then there are really horrible fail posts that upset me so much. like, be glad you missed the trans-racial adoption post x-posted from womanist musings, it was x9000 worse than this
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Oh man I didnt see that post, is still up on the comm? I am kind of curious about it now.
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And racism (whether it's an inability to look past one's race or willful ignorance of the racial difference) is somehow always more disappointing when coming from feminists? Because I do consider feminism to be my safe place in many ways, and then it's all *headdesk* .
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