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[sixunneuf]

Last year, in my IR class, the whole class mocked me (some girl likened me to a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and the TA said something disparaging about the fact that I was just a naïve undergrad) when I tried to suggest that most of the terrorist attacks in Russia supposedly perpetrated by Chechen terrorists were actually false flag operations,

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[wiped]

putin (and anyone else operating in the same colonialist framework) will set the damn reichstag on fire as many times as he needs in order to maintain control over chechnya and garner international support. anyone who doesn't want to deal with this fact is truly naïve.

[korolyeva525]

The thought that Chechen t*rrorists might be from the FSB never occurred to me until you mentioned it. Perhaps it's not you people doubt, but a mixture of misinformation and naievety?

[sick_of_talk]

I added you, you don't have to add me back seeing as you don't know me and my life is not that interesting. take care!

[bad_girls_do_it]

What's the point of arguing such things if there is no way to prove this to be the case. i mean you can imagine anything, say: Putin conspiring with American conservatives for the latter to be elected on the issues of national security with some benefit to Putin. Hence, this tension in the Caucasus. I can imagine how this conflict can be instrumental from that point of view.. but so what? I can also postulate that Saakashvili is an agent of Moscow set up to get American forces involved and then to kick them in a spectacular way in front of the rest of the world and rip the US of its highly inflated (by means of victories in pseudo-wars) superpower status with all the consequences that follow... That is not hard to imagine. The problem is how to prove one against another view of things.

[sixunneuf]

Did you read those links? Read the one about the Russian apartment bombings - the evidence that Russia orchestrated the Ryazan attack (and, by extension, all the rest) is pretty overwhelming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

[bad_girls_do_it]

yes. this theory has been floating around for a while. it is quite consistent. i cannot evaluate it, though, in terms whether it is true or not. just like the 911 stuff with the American government behind it. the evidence is also overwhelming and the theory is tight. but unless i can test at least some things myself (which would require a possession of special knowledge - not just exposure to youtube visuals and testimonials) i cannot be sure.

[sixunneuf]

1. If you think this theory is as "consistent" as the US-did-9/11 crap, then either you think too much of the latter, or not enough of the former.
2. There's much more to this than YouTube videos and testimonials. Dead spies, dead journalists, dead soldiers - tons of first-person accounts of how it all went down.
3. If you really think that you can't be reasonably sure/have an informed opinion on matters like this, just because you don't have a video tape of the person explaining what they did, how they did it, and telling you where they left the little yellow sticker so that you know it really was them, then you can't really have an opinion on anything, now can you?