Why shoudln't ugly and fat people be accepted in a Slytherin community?koboldkindSeptember 26 2005, 21:41:40 UTC
Neither oily hair and huge hooked noses nor pug like faces are the epitomy of hotness. And neither do Crabbe and Goyle have the body of fairies, nor does Bulstrode.
And besides, why make a poll when you know all along what the 'right answers' are?
Please see my argument in the previous post. I agree that I wouldn't want people I consider ugly or fat in Slytherin (it degrades the standard), but as a community I believe we have to consider the logics of that requirement.
The name should be straightfoward- "slyth_apps" or something similar would be sufficient. A similar layout is likely all that is necessary, after all- a person will likely only see this community once.
I would like to have questions on this application that will reflect their mental, physical and emotional status- not simply their hobbies. Examples: How often they exercise, their greatest individual achievement and why they consider it that (shows what they consider important and also their definition of success), their opinion on a recent (inter)national issue they are following and a paragraph or more defending their opinion on said issue...etc.
Also, let me remind you...purplesideSeptember 26 2005, 21:55:38 UTC
"P.S. To those of you complaining about criteria concerning age/ appearance/ literacy/ elitism blah blah blah please refer back to Only pretending to be mean/ vile/ evil"...
1. First & foremost all members of the community are requested to maintain a polite & pleasant demeanour in all posts & comments within the community. While discussions & debates are welcome, arguments & derivative, demeaning or offensive language will not be tolerated.
2. Punctuation/ grammar/ spelling is not a factor that will be used to decide the validity of posts, but I would ask that all members attempt to keep their contributions coherent & following some basic linguistic rules (PLEASE, no mixed case typing).
Re: Also, let me remind you...deathandsequinsSeptember 26 2005, 22:11:43 UTC
Haha, if you don't stop being so smart I may have to kill you.
To be honest I didn't expect people to take the poll options & my comments so literally. The things I suggested on the poll were, funnily enough, suggestions. At present SPG is not a consideration in post validity, but it's the thing that I've received most complaints about over the years & I know it's something that people feel strongly about (supported by 78.8% vote), as far as I was concerned this was about giving community members a chance to tick boxes to show what they wanted taken into account in their fellow community members.
&I stand by what I said, discussions etc are welcome, I was just drawing attention to the fact that all of the so called super super evil members we have here in Slytherin get ever so P.C. & literal (yes, that again) at times like these.
Re: Also, let me remind you...purplesideSeptember 26 2005, 22:39:20 UTC
You can safely assume that when I post, it will be considerably literal. It's not an attempt to emulate Slytherin or create an atmosphere of "evil", but it is certainly one of logic. That point of view, for me, has been conditioned from personal factors- in my spare time I write for three local papers, go to med school for dentistry, and considered becoming an attorney at law for six years before that. As you can see, that doesn't allow for much more than professionalism in communications, so I apologize if I'm not coming across as socially appealing in the flat arena of the internet. Like anyone else...I can be anything but professional
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Re: Also, let me remind you...deathandsequinsSeptember 27 2005, 11:21:05 UTC
Well if it's representation of opinion you're looking for I don't think you'll find a bigger contrast than your literalism & my satirical inclinations!
I must admit that I am somewhat confused by your assumption that literalism arises from professionalism, & professionalism in turn is something that is not socially appealing in the flat arena of the Internet (if that is not your intention, forgive me my misinterpretation). I would have it that professionalism is behaviour/ conduct specific to a profession, in this instance communication, ergo your professionalism should include an awareness of your context, of your audience (social factors therein) & of your method of communication to name a mere few. While it may be required to be literal in some instances, it will not be in every instance, the professionalism you speak of would be the ability to recognise such a situation
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There is quite a gap between...koboldkindSeptember 26 2005, 22:08:25 UTC
evil ~the quality of being morally wrong in principal or practise ~that which causes harm, destruction or misfortune ~having or exceeding a malignant influence
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superfical ~affected or concerned with a surface only ~not deep or penetrating emotionally or intelectually
Re: There is quite a gap between...deathandsequinsSeptember 26 2005, 22:29:54 UTC
P.C. is politically correct.
What exactly is bothering you? You'll have to excuse me I've had a very long day & I'm getting a bit fuzzy round the edges; if you let me know yr concerns I promise to get back to you tomorrow.
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And neither do Crabbe and Goyle have the body of fairies, nor does Bulstrode.
And besides, why make a poll when you know all along what the 'right answers' are?
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The name should be straightfoward- "slyth_apps" or something similar would be sufficient. A similar layout is likely all that is necessary, after all- a person will likely only see this community once.
I would like to have questions on this application that will reflect their mental, physical and emotional status- not simply their hobbies. Examples: How often they exercise, their greatest individual achievement and why they consider it that (shows what they consider important and also their definition of success), their opinion on a recent (inter)national issue they are following and a paragraph or more defending their opinion on said issue...etc.
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To those of you complaining about criteria concerning age/ appearance/ literacy/ elitism blah blah blah please refer back to Only pretending to be mean/ vile/ evil"...
1. First & foremost all members of the community are requested to maintain a polite & pleasant demeanour in all posts & comments within the community. While discussions & debates are welcome, arguments & derivative, demeaning or offensive language will not be tolerated.
2. Punctuation/ grammar/ spelling is not a factor that will be used to decide the validity of posts, but I would ask that all members attempt to keep their contributions coherent & following some basic linguistic rules (PLEASE, no mixed case typing).
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To be honest I didn't expect people to take the poll options & my comments so literally. The things I suggested on the poll were, funnily enough, suggestions. At present SPG is not a consideration in post validity, but it's the thing that I've received most complaints about over the years & I know it's something that people feel strongly about (supported by 78.8% vote), as far as I was concerned this was about giving community members a chance to tick boxes to show what they wanted taken into account in their fellow community members.
&I stand by what I said, discussions etc are welcome, I was just drawing attention to the fact that all of the so called super super evil members we have here in Slytherin get ever so P.C. & literal (yes, that again) at times like these.
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I must admit that I am somewhat confused by your assumption that literalism arises from professionalism, & professionalism in turn is something that is not socially appealing in the flat arena of the Internet (if that is not your intention, forgive me my misinterpretation). I would have it that professionalism is behaviour/ conduct specific to a profession, in this instance communication, ergo your professionalism should include an awareness of your context, of your audience (social factors therein) & of your method of communication to name a mere few. While it may be required to be literal in some instances, it will not be in every instance, the professionalism you speak of would be the ability to recognise such a situation ( ... )
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~the quality of being morally wrong in principal or practise
~that which causes harm, destruction or misfortune
~having or exceeding a malignant influence
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superfical
~affected or concerned with a surface only
~not deep or penetrating emotionally or intelectually
Please refer back to No stupid people
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May I ask what P.C. means? (still no native speaker)
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What exactly is bothering you? You'll have to excuse me I've had a very long day & I'm getting a bit fuzzy round the edges; if you let me know yr concerns I promise to get back to you tomorrow.
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