My mom was scheduled to read at the noon mass today, which turned out to be a first confirmation mass, crowded with tiny people in suits and dresses. They were as adorable as they were numerous. I sat in back with the ushers, so I could more efficiently ush, in addition to having a place to sit. Then, out of the blue, our priest pointed out
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I'm going to call you in like 20 seconds to see if you can do anything anyway, so I'm not entirely sure why I'm leaving this, but oh well... we should do soemthing today if you can.
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now about the post:
wow, they circled a petition? what nutcases. i was just telling someone else over AIM how i don't get these people. so yeah.
and hey, thanks for the little Bible history, now i know where the word "sodomy" comes from. and you know something, i think your analysis of the situation is way more dead-on than all these conservative idiots. i mean, sure they went for the men, but honeslty, my reading of that situation is "rape is bad" not "gay people are bad".
which goes to show, yet again, that the bible can be twisted and turned in multiple ways to "prove" just about any point of view. add to this the fact that the "bible" as a whole was not even written by one person, but was instead compiled from different disciples who sometimes told contradictory stories about the same event, and you realize that the bible needs to cease existing as a source of proof for any and all arguments.
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What I read was the men were from the military, abusing their power, and the problem was that those men were gay and the angels weren't, which means the crime was obviously related to consent. It would have been consent if they accepted his offer, but they insisted on having sex with people who didn't want to. Nowhere does the Bible say that two men having sex is in itself a crime, people just twist it so much over time that everyone's sure of it, conveniently ignoring God's blantant anarchist behaviors.
So now we've both had our Bible rants lol.
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and there definetly is a short passage using the words "men who lie with men"
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And yes it said men who lie with men, but the emphasis was that the other men didn't want to be lied with. Leviticus says it's wrong to lie with another man as one would with a woman, but that was compiled and recorded hundreds of years after it was used in the desert. By the time it was written down in the form currently translated into use in the Bible, some scribe was just writing down a list of the grossest sexual things he could think of, and it is by no means the direct will of God. That's why no one studies that book anyway except angry, jealous, old conservatives who want some words to twist from the Bible.
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the long horizontalness of your page makes my head hurt to read it :S
love you! ^^
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I love you too!
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