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Sep 03, 2010 21:29

It's been a while since my last rant, so here goes ( Read more... )

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smallbluesphere September 3 2010, 21:30:36 UTC
Apparently it's gravity...unfortunately that's all the explanation that's up anywhere at the moment...

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evildrganymede September 3 2010, 22:35:12 UTC
I guess we'll find out when his book "The Grand Design" is published on the 9th Sept.

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evildrganymede September 3 2010, 22:11:45 UTC
The point is that nothing else (i.e. no 'higher power') is necessary for the creation of the universe, or the physics that we get our scientific laws from.

I think the kerfuffle really is that he said that we could "understand the mind of God" previously, and now is saying that actually we don't even need a God to be there to create the universe at all.

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smallbluesphere September 4 2010, 07:10:38 UTC
Exactly, and once again, I see no necessary incompataility with Christianity, if we can explain everything with physics it just shows that God is consistant.

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evildrganymede September 4 2010, 07:25:17 UTC
Thing is, how far does God have to get pushed into the background before he's no longer relevant as a concept? I mean, we've gone from "God made everything" to "God may have lit the blue touch paper of the Big Bang" to "God may not have had anything to do with it at all".

And if a God isn't actually needed to create the universe, doesn't that throw all of Christianity (and Judaism, and Islam) out of the window? If he didn't create the universe, why is an omnipotent God required? And if he's not omnipotent, why worship him?

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smallbluesphere September 4 2010, 20:27:07 UTC
Well, mainly because the one thing you really can't say is the God didn't have anything to do with it.

Even if we can now explain everything right back to the start of the Big Bang with physics, all that does is show that we can explain all of it with physics. It doesn't tell us what is behind all the physics.

To me, God explains why the universe obeys the laws of physics, someone obviously cared about the universe enough to make sure it made sense.

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mysoulissoblack September 4 2010, 03:22:52 UTC
Well said, D.

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cleosilver September 4 2010, 14:12:37 UTC
And God said "Let there be Planck's Constant and let Planck's Constant = h"

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