Here's some references to look into
anonymous
September 8 2004, 21:02:49 UTC
You say that God has the ultimate authority of who will be the next president of the United States, then what is the use of voting. In essense, that would be going against his will of the next president. No one knows who God is going to allow to be president, so it's not in our power to say who we want to be. For further on this topic read Romans 13 whole chapter is good. Ephesians 6:12. 2 Corinthians 6:14, 15. John 18:36 and finally 2 Timothy 2:15
Re: more food for thoughtsea_stackSeptember 11 2004, 22:49:18 UTC
It says to pay Caesar what is due to Caesar. It's an issue of cultural relavence. You could also take your completely one-sided argument and say that since God has preordained everything, the disciples and apostles were justing wasting their time and it didn't make any difference. Fat lot of good that would have done. Because there's that whole issue of FREE CHOICE that he implemented.
Don't you think that maybe there are better issues on which to decide your vote than faith? This country was founded on the seperation of church and state afterall. Also, Bush has said repeatedly that he thinks its God's will that he be President. For those of you who know a little history, it might seem a little reminiscent of "Mandates of Heaven" or declarations made by almost every dictator in history, or the Kings of medieval Europe who were so oppressive. Maybe voting should be based on what the candidate's policies are. Maybe issues like jobs, economics, foreign policy, or when we send our troops into harms way are a little more important than Kerry misreading his speech. But of course, Mr. Bush has never misread or misspoken anything.
How about when a President gives congress misinformation regarding weapons of mass destruction and ties to Al-Queda? How about when he promises to exhaust all other options before using the military powers congress gave him and then doesn't even allow weapons inspectors to finish their job? Many of the people in Congress who voted to give military power to Mr. Bush (99% of the Senate) were given false information, told that Iraq posed and immediate threat the the US, and were told that the US would collaborate with the UN. Kerry and many other members of Congress never knew that their vote would lead to such a unilateral action and the degradation of many of our alliance.
Do you really think that they "tricked" those many people in Congress? I'm sure they all have somewhat of a pretty good idea of what is going on and voted for the own little reasons- not so they could sleep at night because they know there were weapons of mass destruction and that was the only reason for going to Iraq- for some reason it's hard for me to swallow that they didn't know what was happening and why- and do you think the people of Iraq are worse off now? I'm sure that the thought of freeing all those people crossed those voters's minds. The people who vote for things in Congress are not the average joe idiots like all of us- they know what they are doing and why they are voting the way they are- and if Kerry really didn't know what the hell is going on then why would you think he has any credibility at all?
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Maybe voting should be based on what the candidate's policies are. Maybe issues like jobs, economics, foreign policy, or when we send our troops into harms way are a little more important than Kerry misreading his speech.
But of course, Mr. Bush has never misread or misspoken anything.
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