things in my life right now

Oct 05, 2008 21:49

- amazing conversation with amazing man/writer/teacher who knows peter lamborn wilson but picked up on the fact that i like/knew about/was in the past inspired by miranda july and sadie benning and was a riot grrrl... and i told him about the ancient future and read this thing that i wrote ( Read more... )

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analkant October 6 2008, 02:55:17 UTC
good job eating all of our pizza!
have fun in portland
it is weird because i think reality has beaten me because when you say things like these all i can think is "she is so detached from reality" but that is secretly a good thing as long as you can keep it up without starving/being a mooch.

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i ate my own pizza!!! good job putting coffee grinds on my pizza! spaceviolet October 6 2008, 03:18:51 UTC
well,

the thing is that we are now in a moment where art has been pretty much totally de-materialized.

which is a good thing.

my interest is to revive the art object, but have it be a useful object as well. which means functional, either in a utilitarian sense or in a ritualistic sense. so just because we say fuck commodity and fuck the gallery doesn't mean fuck the material world, because making things is SO important.

AND so activist...in the DIY way...so these people making so called marxist critiques of the art world and the art object are forgetting completely that thing about being alienated from the means of production, oftentimes meaning alienation from one's own best tools: our hands.

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Re: i fucked your pizza!!! good job peeing on my pizza! analkant October 6 2008, 03:55:30 UTC
see that's the sort of phrasing that comes from being out of touch with reality
like
you can make things
and it'll be fun
that's pretty much what you're saying here. and i agree with it and it's good but what a convoluted way to phrase it.

and it's an absurd assumption about conformity to imply that "we" say "fuck commodity"
though i do think it is good that art has dematerialized because it shouldn't be for sale unless you need material costs covered
and why would i care about marxists? they are silly that's all

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Re: i fucked your pizza!!! good job peeing on my pizza! spaceviolet October 6 2008, 04:13:27 UTC
when i say 'we say fuck commodity', talk about dematerialization, and mention marxism, i'm talking about things that are brought up in current art theory.

so im responding to that stuff...

it sucks that it makes no sense out of context.

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