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[stae]

Almost everyday for years now i have felt an oppressive vice like grip of control influencing the way i am supposed to behave and act. Maybe for all my life but i guess you don't quite notice it til later. Its this guiding force telling you what is apparently right, what my values are supposed to be, who i am or destined to be. I often take stock

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[ms_annie]

sweet i'm truly favoured!

sorry for such a silly comment after thoughtful type post. how the hell are you anyway? will we ever see that pretty face out in the valley again?

[stae]

Well it is a kind of remorse type rising from the ashes sort of thing that i was thinking of.

I have been pretty good and will be heading out on saturday night for the suicide girls and hopefully out to something super tops afterwards. are you perchance going out saturday?

[unjaundiced]

well all those "social norms" are restrictions society places upon your natural instinct and inclinations in order to have a society where people can sort of coexist without going crazy on each other. if you're not as naturally inclined to feel a certain way about things that society considers normal or correct, then maybe you would feel a bit oppressed. the moments you forget about it, you're happiest because you're doing what's natural and satisfying whatever urges you have without the anxiety of social acceptance of such behaviour. we have a controlled free will. our "free actions" are influenced by our society and it's ideals and whatnot. maybe a baby has free will, but only to a certain extent.

hm... i think that means many in this world are truly favoured. does that mean we get a prize?

[draevon]

I'm going to pretty well agree with this person here (sorry, I don't know who you are). But yes ... if you decide to live a self serving/self gratifying lifestyle with little regard to what is mandated or expected by society, then of course you're going to be at your happiest. Everyone likes getting what they want. The problem being, if everyone lived this kind of lifestyle you're house would probably have been robbed and looted a long time ago, because hey ... maybe the guy down the street would be at his happiest setting fire to houses, and maybe the people next door would be happier if they had your stereo instead of theirs.

It works great for a bit if you're the one stepping outside societies bounds for the moment, but it comes unstuck if more people start to do it. You're kind of like the child at school who isn't vaccinated because "those diseases aren't around anymore". It works ok if one or two kids skip the vaccine, but if more people do it, all of a sudden we're riddled with disease again.

[ninedeadleaves]

But at what point do you draw the line? It's all well and good to claim that you're living outside society's bounds, but wouldn't that imply that you'd have to leave cities and towns far behind? (We could get really abstract and claim that man as a social creature takes society with him , but we won't.)
And as far as living a self serving lifestyle is concerned, that's fine too, but wouldn't you be a little hypocritical claiming to live outside the rules and still getting what you want? Everything we want is a secondhand condition of society; whether you want what's on offer or whether you want the exact opposite, the stimuli is ultimately the same.
There's no such thing as living outside the rules. We make the rules and we are the rules. It's what we do. Step outside them, and you've just made another counter-culture response that is inherently assimilated at the moment of its conception, and then they put a price tag on it. Just look at goths and emo kids.

[our_lies]

whoah. very nice.

[our_lies]

anarchy bad, law & order good

[ninedeadleaves]

...become an active citizen.

This is why I find hippie protests so amusing. They should have a shower, get a degree and enter politics and make a change to the system from the inside. Because no one takes jobless morons that lack hygeine very seriously when they declaim the government's various evils. If someone looks like they can barely operate a tap, what chance do they have of convincing us they should be allowed to govern a nation? Stupid hippies...

[our_lies]

im not a hippy. and I dont think you need to be a politician to bring about change.....perhaps a lot of money, be an important stakeholder, or be in the possession of a bribery/sex tape. :P
I feel that people need to realise the power they have in Australias representative democracy. put up a fuss, vote for minor parties and scare these 2 major parties into upholding laws and institutions that actually reflect the larger society.

[our_lies]

If we participate and create a society that we want to live in, then we wouldnt have to continuously look for an escape out of it. No more dateline and insight. Proactive. vote or die.etc etc

[_116]

free ticket eh

DAMN YOU:P

i paid the full price

BUT IT SHALL BE SO DAMN BEAUTIFUL. i gotto work out posse whos going there too...so far its me and no one else.

[stae]

yes its pretty tidy and mad props go to my friend for getting me in for free, though it seems it may have to be more clandestine than previously thought.

did you go to the last one they did? i ended up getting some flyer thing signed by everyone but Jordi (sp) which was pretty sweet.

I know we haven't really spoken much before but if you like you are more than welcome to hang out with my friends and i. though at the very least i demand that you must say hi! :P

[_116]

will do daddy o

whats your mob

j_as_m@hotmail.com

[stae]

mobile is 0410538003 you?

its on this saturday isn't it?

[belle_a_donna]

Sigur Ross is this weekend