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Jun 11, 2003 14:14

"How many times have you tried to talk to someone about something that matters to you, tried to get them to see it the way you do? And how many of those times have ended with you feeling bitter, resenting them for making you feel like your pain doesn't have any substance after all ( Read more... )

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telecart June 11 2003, 15:11:55 UTC
There's this philosopher, I forget his name at these late hours,
that wrote and expanded on the subject of man's utter and complete aloneness in the world.
He went even further than his predecessors, by saying that even the conversations we have, are in fact all with ourselves, because every person interprets words differently, because of past association, etc.
Language is our prison. The tower of babylon is a metaphor to man's anguish.
We are so sickeningly alone in this world, no one can ever ever ever comprehend what you feel, and all sympathy is false.

Well, anyway, that's what he says.

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he has some fine points. :/ starblower June 19 2003, 04:47:58 UTC
you know, i got to thinking that any sympathy/empathy we feel for other people is basically just us feeling sorry for ourselves. cos we cannot truly identify with something that didn't happen to us in some level.

like, i heard of this girl, going through a bad state of unrequited love. and it made me so sad. i've been thinking, what a splendidly swell person you are, shira, you're feeling sad for this girl you don't know. but then it occurred to me, i was feeling sad for myself, i cared for the girl because it was easier than caring for myself.

or something.. me be no philosopher and i'm feeling so much less miserable by now. :)

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Re: he has some fine points. :/ telecart June 19 2003, 09:40:53 UTC
time does heal all, doesn't it, eh?I'm not a philosopher either, but your words bare a certain truth - I do it a lot.
Helping others helps me escape helping me.

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wildernesscat June 12 2003, 21:10:22 UTC
A good friend will just sit with you and listen. Really listen. That's all a person needs.

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starblower June 19 2003, 04:49:53 UTC
problem is people are always trying to educate you with their little pearls of wisdom. i don't blame them. i do it myself. i always think i see the situation more clearly than anyone else. :/

listening is good though. hugging is too.

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wildernesscat June 19 2003, 05:09:29 UTC
Yes, it's true. People (especially women) will tell you about their troubles not because they need solutions. Nope. They just want to get it out of their system. And it's okay. Why not?

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