I guess that's the one thing I've always had about Wincest. I enjoy it, but the bottom line tends to always be that Sam's needing Dean and Dean's needing to take care of Sam is this permanent thing, which I don't agree with. I think Dean needs to understand that he's cared for as much as he is by Sam, not because of what he's done for him but just because he's Dean, in order to grow out of his dependence on Sam and Sam's understanding Dean's mode of thinking and everything Dean has sacrificed for him over the years is something that he needs in order to truly face himself, face his past, and really move on towards the future. It's like, they need to come together in order to part and if you're writing Wincest, I feel like they can come together again after that moment happens but not before.Thank you for putting into words what I've always wanted to say but was always too lazy to write down. WORD. Absolutely. Wincest, in my book, is a tragedy because of this very thing. It would imply that the unhealthy co-dependence engendered by
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I want them to be ok, too, although I will overlook it at times because the writing for Wincest tends to be so good. And some authors I've come across do get that the way they depend on each other isn't necessarily healthy and either write it as something that isn't healthy but happens anyway or develop them to that point I was talking about and then have them turn to each other anyway because of the loneliness of their work and world. But yeah, anything that spins off of the dependent 'Dean must take care of Sam and pretend he doesn't have needs of his own' relationship seems to leave the characters underdeveloped to me. Unless, like I said, you are writing it as a kind of tragedy, which a lot of authors do.
Yeah, randomly, she did and I like her a lot more for being as unlikeable as she was this week (I honestly think she only called Dean back because she didn't want him to kill her, not out of any sympathy for the brothers) than I've liked her in the past. Props to Sera Gamble for being an amazing writer.
And...yeah. If you're gonna be black on SPN, better be a woman. Then you get to live and might even be kinda kickass. Otherwise, you die painfully and sometimes embarrassingly, too.
By the definition you've taught me over our little HP debates of the last year, he's a complete Slytherin; does whatever it takes to realise his ambitions and doesn't care who gets in the way or who he needs to hurt to make it so and ends up failing in the end just like any JKR Slyth :p.
The Bela stuff in this ep was, indeed, awesome. I'm almost willing to forgive her the accent now. Not quite but almost.
But you forget, Gryffindors can be driven and ambitious, too, so long as they have moral purpose (the Greater Good?). And that's what drives Gordon; it would be one thing if he were like Bela, completely out for himself only and willing to do anything to realize those ambitions. That's a sign of a true Slytherin. Someone who needs to couch what he does in doctrine the way that Gordon does, who needs to know that what he's doing is the right thing (whether it is or not doesn’t matter so long as he needs to think it is and does) and who can only see the worlds in shades of black-and-white, never grey? Those are all signs of a true Gryffindor. It's why Dean's not a Gryffindor despite wanting to help people; when it comes to Sammy, he's willing to make any exception he has to in order to keep him alive even if it's not all that morally sound. But Gordon with his need to do 'two things for the world' before he died and a moral code so rigid that one of those things is killing himself (no Slytherin would ever die for principle, it's
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And...yeah. If you're gonna be black on SPN, better be a woman. Then you get to live and might even be kinda kickass. Otherwise, you die painfully and sometimes embarrassingly, too.
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By the definition you've taught me over our little HP debates of the last year, he's a complete Slytherin; does whatever it takes to realise his ambitions and doesn't care who gets in the way or who he needs to hurt to make it so and ends up failing in the end just like any JKR Slyth :p.
The Bela stuff in this ep was, indeed, awesome. I'm almost willing to forgive her the accent now. Not quite but almost.
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