Purgatorium.What follows is a matter of my personal stance on Celestial Being. Not ShuRa's. However, I feel it necessary to make my point from a position of authority and experience
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I won't expect you to understand. I won't expect anyone to.
It was the world against us back home. It may be that here too, then. ...but I'm sure that even that has a purpose in the long run. No, I know that it does.
I shouldn't say anymore. I shouldn't have volunteered to put the announcement on the network. I'm a soldier, not a diplomat. My strength lies in fighting, not in my words.
I am part of Celestial Being. I am a Gundam Meister.
Few people are. I don't believe they're bad people; many of them worked for me once, and worked very well. You work for them now as well, as I understand it.
However, their ultimate goal is flawed, and they are a danger to themselves if they try to follow through with it. I can't ignore potentially harmful activity, and all the more so if I do concern myself with the wellbeing of the individuals involved.
Sometimes...yeah, a fight is necessary, and I don't really like that, but it's true. But...there is a right way and wrong way to do it. But if people can bring peace without aggression, it's going to be way more of a lasting peace than by scaring people into submission.
At home, Demons are hated by humans, and if I were, as the King of Demons at home...react to any aggression by taking their declarations of war and retaliating... it would only be peaceful...because one or the other was beaten. A lot of demons dying...or a lot of humans dying... That peace isn't going to last very long, and there will be wars again and again, once people get mad in next human generations for what happened before...and start war again.
What kind of peace would that be? Wouldn't they only not fight because of fear? What kind of King would I be if I let a lot of Demons die because I didn't try another way? War is only a temporary "fix" to create peace.
The only way to sustain eternal peace is through fear and fascist means. Celestial Being enjoys its success because those who are forced into peace live in fear of their forceful intervention. It will accomplish nothing, ultimately, except to create a society of paranoia and constant surveillance.
I would prefer temporary peace at the hands of a war that, ultimately, people need in order to get the rights and happiness that they strive for. Who are these people to deny anyone their right to fight and die for what they believe in?
Either way it is done, there is no peace without aggression. Diplomacy is a flimsy manner of sustaining peace, and one wrong politician will easily break it - as Celestial Being are already realising. One must always be prepared for that.
Temporary peace is still better than war. And long-lasting peace can be brought in other ways if people are willing. It isn't the easiest thing, but it is possible, and I will always fully believe that. And I will always believe that.
No, you're right. People should always be able to fight for what they believe in. You can't just go and squish people to fight for the "ultimate good". That's wrong.
My people are happy, and the surrounding human countries are happy, too. And it isn't to say there wasn't any sacrifices, but from what I was told this hasn't been like this for a very...very long time. We fought, talked, and listened. I guess it takes the right person or group for it to work. It isn't to say things are perfect, but being diplomatic can work. And it has worked.
It'd seem we're very much in agreement, Yuuri. Their ideals are admirable... but they'll get nowhere as they are. Citizens will not stand for plain hypocrisy, or to have their power taken away.
Then you know that when you're young, your initial reaction isn't to fix things via sensible means, but instead to try to stop the process that hurt you from the start. Like burning yourself in a fire. When you're older, you know that using fire cannot be avoided. But the idealism of youth makes you want to refuse fire entirely.
I'm not saying their methods are right-- indeed, there's work yet to be done on them. But they're young. They're idealistic. I can see where they're coming from.
War is inevitable, but here, there really is no call for it, when we all must cooperate to live.
I think any sympathetic person can easily understand their predicament. I agree with you on that, Asellus.
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But... in their position, they have a manpower to equal my own and the two ShinRas individually. That is potentially dangerous, for men with unrealistic ideals to have numbers and power to their names. Regardless of their naivety and good intentions, I must use my senses on this and perceive them as they present themselves - which is as a potential threat.
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I also agree with you on that. Here, they have no purpose, as war no longer functions as it did in their home. We are a small community; our wars are also smaller, and the tactics are different to account for this. I don't believe they are ready to accept the necessary changes.
It must be quite a pleasure to live in so idyllic a world as to sincerely believe that conflict can be ended. And what then? What of those quashed under the heavy hand of "peacekeeping?" Will they not turn against their masters? Such brilliant hypocrisy...!
Those who were brought into the world as tools of war can attest to the impossibility of separating themselves from the very conflict they sought to extinguish.
You were a soldier, then. Yes. Those who are bred for war can, inevitably, only know war. Even when I was no longer a student of Mathiu's, my mind remained on tactics and strategy. It's how I got by successfully as a trader, with those transferable skills.
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I won't expect you to understand. I won't expect anyone to.
It was the world against us back home. It may be that here too, then. ...but I'm sure that even that has a purpose in the long run. No, I know that it does.
I shouldn't say anymore. I shouldn't have volunteered to put the announcement on the network. I'm a soldier, not a diplomat. My strength lies in fighting, not in my words.
I am part of Celestial Being. I am a Gundam Meister.
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I forgive you for your misguidedness. You can't know any better.
... That doesn't mean I will hesitate to fight you if you get in the way of my goals, and of ShuRa's.
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However, their ultimate goal is flawed, and they are a danger to themselves if they try to follow through with it. I can't ignore potentially harmful activity, and all the more so if I do concern myself with the wellbeing of the individuals involved.
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At home, Demons are hated by humans, and if I were, as the King of Demons at home...react to any aggression by taking their declarations of war and retaliating... it would only be peaceful...because one or the other was beaten. A lot of demons dying...or a lot of humans dying... That peace isn't going to last very long, and there will be wars again and again, once people get mad in next human generations for what happened before...and start war again.
What kind of peace would that be? Wouldn't they only not fight because of fear? What kind of King would I be if I let a lot of Demons die because I didn't try another way? War is only a temporary "fix" to create peace.
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I would prefer temporary peace at the hands of a war that, ultimately, people need in order to get the rights and happiness that they strive for. Who are these people to deny anyone their right to fight and die for what they believe in?
Either way it is done, there is no peace without aggression. Diplomacy is a flimsy manner of sustaining peace, and one wrong politician will easily break it - as Celestial Being are already realising. One must always be prepared for that.
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No, you're right. People should always be able to fight for what they believe in. You can't just go and squish people to fight for the "ultimate good". That's wrong.
My people are happy, and the surrounding human countries are happy, too. And it isn't to say there wasn't any sacrifices, but from what I was told this hasn't been like this for a very...very long time. We fought, talked, and listened. I guess it takes the right person or group for it to work. It isn't to say things are perfect, but being diplomatic can work. And it has worked.
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... You were also a leader, once?
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Have you lost anyone dear to you due to war?
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I'm not saying their methods are right-- indeed, there's work yet to be done on them. But they're young. They're idealistic. I can see where they're coming from.
War is inevitable, but here, there really is no call for it, when we all must cooperate to live.
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Private.
But... in their position, they have a manpower to equal my own and the two ShinRas individually. That is potentially dangerous, for men with unrealistic ideals to have numbers and power to their names. Regardless of their naivety and good intentions, I must use my senses on this and perceive them as they present themselves - which is as a potential threat.
/Private.
I also agree with you on that. Here, they have no purpose, as war no longer functions as it did in their home. We are a small community; our wars are also smaller, and the tactics are different to account for this. I don't believe they are ready to accept the necessary changes.
If they interfere with me, I won't stand for it.
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... Do I know you?
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I don't believe you do.
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Yes. Those who are bred for war can, inevitably, only know war. Even when I was no longer a student of Mathiu's, my mind remained on tactics and strategy. It's how I got by successfully as a trader, with those transferable skills.
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