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wildrrrumpus March 9 2004, 02:42:18 UTC
man. i'm super sorry to hear about all of that.

i have no advice. just some compassion.

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strippedscrew March 9 2004, 23:03:48 UTC
And compassion is certainly worth something in my book. Thanks.

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kaka March 9 2004, 04:15:58 UTC
Although all doctors will tell you not to take other drugs when you're medicated, they'll tell you not to take other drugs anyway. It's not ideal, but it's not dangerous.

But if he's not chasing stability (doesn't sound like he is, especially as recreational drugs are always going to mess with bipolar people), then don't waste time and money getting medicated. As was mentioned above, better to refuse the medication altogether than the start, stop, start, stop.

Don't think of it as mental illness. Think of it as akin to being a diabetic - the body isn't working optimally. And it takes more than a doctor's prescription to balance things out.

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strippedscrew March 9 2004, 23:05:29 UTC
It's not ideal, but it's not dangerous.

Are you sure? We've been getting the impression from the literature we've been reading that it actually is dangerous, or at least that it severely impedes success.

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kaka March 9 2004, 23:41:38 UTC
From personal experience, and that of friends and acquaintances.

It impedes success, but not as much as not taking the medication!

Think of it as doctor-speak. Like on the packet of painkillers, do not take more than 4 in a 24 hour period actually means 'try at your own risk'.

But hey, I'm not suggesting anything, and I'm not taking any responsibility. Ask around and I'm sure you'll find someone taking the same medication and leading a very healthy party life.

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yr friendly drug guru checking in push_loud_pens March 10 2004, 00:03:22 UTC
depends on the drug(s) in question and individual neurochemistry. as with all consciousness alteration, your mileage may vary ( ... )

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resilient March 9 2004, 06:37:32 UTC
I have a few bi-polar friends and I've seen them go through long phases in which they do not want to take their medication because they no longer feel like themselves when they're medicated ( ... )

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inertiacrept March 9 2004, 07:58:50 UTC
I've been the guy on meds, I've been the guy not taking his meds, I've been the guy dating the girl who took her meds, I've been the guy dating the girl who didn't. The only thing I've learned? I can't generalize. People are people, and diagnosis doesn't seem to be enough to compel simple answers for most of us all of the time.

As such, I have no advice except take care of yourself.

And darlin, you can get drunk with me and the Jaws of Gopher anytime... you don't need some sort of a precipitating event... especially since we're probably drunk anyhow.

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strippedscrew March 9 2004, 23:08:40 UTC
That was worth a happy smile, or maybe just a smirk. Either way, it helped. Thank you.

Enjoy your lj hiatus, see you on the flip side.

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sewblue March 9 2004, 12:39:45 UTC
I hope that someday I can be added to the list of people who will come out and get drunk with you in Minneapolis (ok ok I have to turn 21 first *blush* but soon!)

I commend you for dealing so well with someone who is manic depressive. It's not easy task, I'm sure. I don't know the whole situation, but I don't think you are crazy for trying to work it out. But since you do need to take care of StrippedScrew, I would encourage you to make sure that your life outside of Misha is strong and fulfilling in order to help you escape and stabilize. But knowing you and your storng sense of self, you probably do that anyway.

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strippedscrew March 9 2004, 23:10:39 UTC
Have I forgotten you my underage friend? I do apologize. Yes, the next time I am in desperate need of mythically familiar Minneapolitan bar in my mind, I will pick you up along the way, too. ;)

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