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May 12, 2011 12:35

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nightfall404 May 12 2011, 12:30:56 UTC
"Women shouldn't have to do things to help prevent it."
Why not? We expect people of both genders to take steps to prevent becoming the victim of every other kind of crime. What's different about this one?

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stroopfaced May 12 2011, 13:28:09 UTC
Well, yeah. Honesly I don't really believe that. It's such a common phrase and I suppose it means in a perfect world.

I don't really understand it, you just can't expect the perpetrator of a crime to take responsibility and prevent it from happening. That doesn't make any sense.

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view_from_here May 12 2011, 17:15:32 UTC
Full responsibility. I know which post you're talking about and that got way out of control.

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spiral_meter May 12 2011, 22:35:14 UTC
sing it, sister.

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eunuch_dreams May 13 2011, 02:23:27 UTC
I got into a debate about this a few years ago on LJ and I can't remember the terms I used, but let's say it was "guilt" and "responsibility". If you get stabbed trying to pick up drugs in London Fields, you aren't "guilty", but you are "responsible" for the actions that led up to you getting stabbed. Equally, getting into unlicensed cabs, walking alone at night, taking insufficient precautions with someone you meet over the internet - etc.

Regarding the recent "Slut March" in Toronto, however, I can see both sides. What the policeman should have said was, "be aware that if you dress in a sexual manner then statistically you are putting yourself at greater risk". What he said, of course, was idiotic, but it was so obvious what he was trying to say that I didn't really see the point in marching over it. With alcohol and friends, the "guilt" is the person who let themselves get that drunk, but it is still our responsibility to look after our friends when they are vulnerable.

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stroopfaced May 13 2011, 15:24:06 UTC
Full marks to you Sammy.

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