Margaret Swann

[sueslaps]

shy_dramaqueen, who has now learned the difference between pedophilia and incest, and will never let Norwegian media brainwash her again, is back with - you guessed it - a Sue. And that sentence was so long it almost awards a good ole' hooker-slap

Comments

[interstellar]

This entire plot does seem awfully familiar. Many of those lines seem familiar too...

...but there's something off about it. Ah, yes, the annoying little Sueworm who for some reason assumes that Jack Sparrow would willingly allow a 13-year-old kid along on a trip that he only allowed Will along on -and agreed to go with Will- to get the Black Pearl back.

Eeeek. Someone stabbitydeath it.

[daniellafromage]

She gets to wear a corset at thirteen, even if her father has said earlier that she'll have to wait till she is fifteen. (How old was Elizabeth in the movie? I understood that it was her first time, since she was so surprised. Or maybe she was just choking, hard to tell.)

I think Elizabeth is meant to be eighteen for most of the film, but - unless the women didn't bother so much in the Caribbean - it's likely that she'd have been wearing corsets for quite a while. I believe some parents had their children fitted for them as young as five. I took the scene in the film to mean that the new fashion was for even smaller waists, thus meaning tighter corsets.

Honestly, what a pointless Sue.

[mylla]

I got the impression that it was the first time she'd seen a corset, since her father was commenting about it being the latest fashion in London, and all. I don't think it had anything to do with her age, just the behind-ness of the colony.

[marjun]

The problem I have with that whole "corset" thing, whether it is Elizabeth or a sue, is that a 13-year-old would have been wearing one for quite some time. In order to get that fashionably small waist, one could not just put on a corset at the age of 18, or even 13, and expect to get it. A woman's body had to get that "Barbie doll shape" by being molded into it over years. They even slept in them, if they could stand it. I mean, look at this. She did not just decide to put on a corset one day to look nice at a party.

The best first-person example I can think of is in the writings of Laura Ingalls Wilder, where her mother says that when she married, "He could span my waist with his two hands." That is a teeny waist! No wonder victorian ladies were so prone to faints and "the vapors..." they had all their internal organs crammed into the wrong places.

[marjun]

That picture is what nightmares are made of. I am so glad that I do not live in a time when people wear corsets. I could not stand it.

[marjun]

This is even worse. I don't see how these women do it. The neck rings actually collapse the clavicle, and their necks are so elongated that some of them can't hold their heads up without them.

[marjun]

I guess they just get used to it. I mean, I'm sure some of what we do looks uncomfortable to others. However, we don't have anything that actually breaks parts of our body...

[calico321]

That was seriously the most pointless thing I've ever read. Why are we supposed to care that some random girl shows up in a movie we all loved? Is it supposed to make it better, 'cause really it doesn't.

[mylla]

“The other Miss. Swann.” I put in.

When the only contribution your character makes in an entire scene is, "And me! I altered the story to put me in! Don't forget I'm here!" ...that might be a clue that she's completely pointless.

[scarlet_blade]

Wouldn't it be "Miss Margaret", not "Miss Swann"? Since Elizabeth is present, she would be the only one addressed as "Miss Swann". At least, according to what I've gleaned from Jane Austen's novels she would be.

[mylla]

Hm, true. Which makes her only comment in that entire scene even more pointless!

[sarcastic_celt]

I think "Miss Swan" would be reserved for Elizabeth becuase she is the oldest and unmarried.But that is just my theory If I recall correctly from Austen's P&P