I do think about more than just Fringe, some weeks

[sugangel7]

That week was not this week. Even though I had like midterms and stuff and did not really have time for all this watching videos and reading fanfic because I still can't get over the awesomeness that is the last two episodes

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[sarahyyy]

There hasn't been that much Fringe love floating around on my f-list in a long while. I JUST WANT TO DITTO THE WHOLE POST.

♥

[sugangel7]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked. Fringe is really so awesome. I'd been a little worried with how things were going a few episodes ago, but for the most part I trusted the writers and I think the last two episodes really show why and if you look at them in relation to where this whole season has been going...I'm just really loving it. <3

[ciderapples]

[sugangel7]

Ah, I'm glad that idea resonates for you! I know what you mean. I've been struggling alot with his acceptance of the inconsistencies and it's only recently that I've actually tried to sort them out so seeing Subject 13 definitely helped.

[anatolealice]

I hope it's not weird me commenting, I stumbled upon your journal through the epic fic binge I have been on these past few weeks.

I love your whole post, agree with this all. This show is so amazingly awesome for just how much they have shown of this relationship! They talk! Even when things are bad, they've talked through what they are feeling.
"Do you trust him?" It's interesting how much of Peter and Olivia's relationship is based on their connection to Walter with him as the father figure. And Walter's such a shipper gah.Yes. And this trust between them is so important and developed so early. And it's all linked it to Walter, who hurt them both so much but at the same time wishes them so much happiness. I can't remember what episode it was, but Olivia says 'you have to trust me' and Peter does, he just follows her

[sugangel7]

Oh, it's not weird you commenting at all. I definitely wanted to hear what other people have to say -- i usually keep most of my journal locked but wanted to keep this entry public.

And yeah, the fact that Peter and Olivia talk is one of my favorite parts. And it's something that they've earned, ya know? The writers had them earn it all throughout S1 and S2 -- they are partners and friends first, and they've come to confide in one another so it's natural for them to talk even when things are tough and awkward.

I totally agree about what you said about them getting together at the Bishops' house. She did pull him away from Walter, and that was part of her whole plan right? She needed him to start connecting with her side, get him attached to her. But yeah, Peter and Olivia can't exist except as part of their "odd little family unit" with Walter.

Also yes, Marionette is LOVELY especially due to that end scene even though it's heartbreaking.

Anyways, glad you rambled. I love interesting rambling. ;)

[anatolealice]

Yeah, they really did earn it. I love them together because they have never not been together. They supported each other as partners and friends. I get very frustrated with shows that have people who obviously care about each other just walk away from that love over misunderstandings.

The end scene in Marionette is one of the most heartbreakingly honest conversations I've seen ever!

*shakes fist at LJ for not sending me comments*

[ziparumpazoo]

I like the way you lay all this out. Thank you for taking all these little things that have been floating around my head about these episodes and putting them on paper. :)

I love that Olivia is the one who has taken alot of the initiative in their romantic interactions. I enjoy it. Peter lets her lead -- he follows.

The first thing that hooked me about this show was how the writers turn all the usual gender conventions on their head by letting Olivia be the main character. They don't stick her in the role of caretaker. They let her be brash and bold and the one with the gun who runs off to save the day and they're unapologetic about it, so it feels right and very much in character that anything that happens between the two of them, it would be Olivia who initiates it, not just getting swept along.

It's interesting how much of Peter and Olivia's relationship is based on their connection to Walter with him as the father figure. In some twisted way, this is why I actually like the whole baby-plot. Walter has made a point on several

[sugangel7]

The first thing that hooked me about this show was how the writers turn all the usual gender conventions on their head by letting Olivia be the main character.Totally, totally. Olivia Dunham is one of the most brilliantly written female characters I've come across on television in awhile. She is the one who takes charge, but it never really comes off as masculine to me. A friend put it this way: "I love Olivia because the writers have finally done what so many have tried to do before - create a strong female character without taking away any of her femaleness. They didn't write a man and cast a woman. They wrote a badass who just happens to be played by a woman

I write too much...

[sugangel7]

What will Walter think? "You have no idea what it's like...to lose a child," he tells Olivia in "Peter." Obviously this will be a little different because Peter, when he finds out about Fauxlivia's child, will not have a sense of him ever having been a father so he won't have that gut-wrenching experiential knowledge of actually being a father to a child for seven years and then losing a son or daughter. But it's a different kind of 'what if?' loss...if he chooses to stay on our side he'll miss an opportunity to be a father to his child...on the other hand if Peter goes over there he misses out on the possibility of having a family with Olivia right? And he is losing the only family he's ever really known -- Olivia and Walter -- to form his own family over there with a woman who'd lied to him...huh

Re: I write too much...

[ziparumpazoo]

And the writers expect you to pick it apart too. It's nice being in an active fandom again with people excited about the show. Thank you. :)

And he is losing the only family he's ever really known -- Olivia and Walter -- to form his own family over there with a woman who'd lied to him...huh.This is why I don't see him just up and leaving to be with AltLivia. Somebody somewhere called the three of them a 'found-family' and I like that; it's something they've made work for them, partly because of the Jacksonville bond, but also because Peter and Olivia have both spent their lives searching for that sense of belonging and purpose and they find it in each other. They both exhibit one of the hallmarks of children who've grown up with alcoholic parents; that sense that if they could just make everything better for everybody else, (even at their own expense) then they could be happy

[gateruner]

I just have to say DITTO to everything you said! You really nailed a lot of points about these two.

Mind if I fried you? I don't have a lot of Fringe fans on my flist and I need some support! :D

[sugangel7]

Sure, added you back! Glad you enjoyed the post -- it's so much fun dissecting Fringe.

Can't wait for the episode next week, ah!