I couldn't understand a word Heath Ledger said & it annoyed me. Also, the "aging" make-up (was it simply Elmer's Glue around Heath's eyes?) was distracting & of junior high school play quality.
The last half hour made me want to chew my arm off to get out of the theater. It just kept dragging on.
I wouldn't even have gone & seen it in the theater if my sister hadn't dragged me there. My mother cried. But that just reminded me of her telling me when I was 16 that lesbians are never happy. "You're making your life difficult. Look at The Children's Hour!"
Yes, homosexual people are miserable. You didn't know that, robby? :)
The only reason i did see it, which i forgot to mention in my diatribe, was that i've been bitchin' and moanin' for so many years about conservatives who condemn movies they've never seen that i had to see it for myself.
i wanted to transport myself into the film and yell at them "Being queer has made me happier than probably anything in my life! Quit complaining and move to San Francisco... You can start the cowboy clone era!"
I do have to say, though, that I'm now trying to remember if you grew up in all urban settings. These characters were awfully familiar, not as period characters, but as guys I've known in the not so distant past, guys still around today.
I grew up in the wild & untamed mean streets of the Connecticut suburbs, where our family put the middle in middle class. The rough and tumble mowed lawns, the whiffleball games played on asphalt and paused once an hour when a car drove through, hard times when a guy didn't have a clothespin and a baseball card to put in the spokes of his bicycle wheel... at least until he remembered to ask his Mom for the clothespin. School of hard knocks, babe
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"It bothers me to have it so highly praised as a gay love story when I saw so many ugly aspects to this relationship."
I agree. It really depressed me, too. Not because I gave a shit about either character because I, unexpectedly, did not care about either of them.
I found both of them pretty unlikable and found their relationship unhealthy. Period piece, whatever, it still was not a representation of a healthy, gay romance. Not that I'm sure I would have liked that much either.
I also found their treatment of their wives horrid. I'm convinced the gays who saw it would have seen no problem with it, claiming that, hey, they are gay and distresed, cut them some slack.
Anyway, the movie made me sad. Not because he died. But because the film left me feeling slimey and kind of dirty.
"The filmmakers and actors failed to show me the romantic love and emotion that supposedly pulled these men together again and again over decades. It came across more like they couldn't get laid the rest of the years."
Oh, look, everyone, it's super_robby, a.k.a. My New Hero. I have no desire to see Brokeback Mountain. Every time someone acts shocked ("But it's about gay people!"), I say, "Show me a movie where the gay cowboys live happily ever after, and then maybe we'll talk" (but honestly, only maybe. I hate cowboy movies. I don't care how gay they are).
The whole phenomenon reminds me of an article I read while I was researching a paper on lesbians in literature and film for one of my college classes. I don't remember the title or the author or even where I found it, but the opening sentences have always stuck with me: "When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s, there were no happy lesbians in literature or film. Either they committed suicide, gave up the love of their lives for the 'normalcy' of straight marriage, or died of some terrible disease. Or a tree fell on them."
I agree with a lot of what you say about the movie..It is not even on my top ten list of favorite gay movies...in fact if someone hadnt bought me a copy of the movie..I wouldnt own it. But yeah I dont think it was really the best thing for the "community" But alas I did see the movie a couple of times..and unfortunately have a copy....but it doesnt mean I really like it..
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The last half hour made me want to chew my arm off to get out of the theater. It just kept dragging on.
I wouldn't even have gone & seen it in the theater if my sister hadn't dragged me there. My mother cried. But that just reminded me of her telling me when I was 16 that lesbians are never happy. "You're making your life difficult. Look at The Children's Hour!"
Yes, homosexual people are miserable. You didn't know that, robby? :)
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The only reason i did see it, which i forgot to mention in my diatribe, was that i've been bitchin' and moanin' for so many years about conservatives who condemn movies they've never seen that i had to see it for myself.
i wanted to transport myself into the film and yell at them "Being queer has made me happier than probably anything in my life! Quit complaining and move to San Francisco... You can start the cowboy clone era!"
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I do have to say, though, that I'm now trying to remember if you grew up in all urban settings. These characters were awfully familiar, not as period characters, but as guys I've known in the not so distant past, guys still around today.
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I agree. It really depressed me, too. Not because I gave a shit about either character because I, unexpectedly, did not care about either of them.
I found both of them pretty unlikable and found their relationship unhealthy. Period piece, whatever, it still was not a representation of a healthy, gay romance. Not that I'm sure I would have liked that much either.
I also found their treatment of their wives horrid. I'm convinced the gays who saw it would have seen no problem with it, claiming that, hey, they are gay and distresed, cut them some slack.
Anyway, the movie made me sad. Not because he died. But because the film left me feeling slimey and kind of dirty.
Dylan
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Yes, that too!
Your old friend,
Dylan
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The whole phenomenon reminds me of an article I read while I was researching a paper on lesbians in literature and film for one of my college classes. I don't remember the title or the author or even where I found it, but the opening sentences have always stuck with me: "When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s, there were no happy lesbians in literature or film. Either they committed suicide, gave up the love of their lives for the 'normalcy' of straight marriage, or died of some terrible disease. Or a tree fell on them."
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I agree with a lot of what you say about the movie..It is not even on my top ten list of favorite gay movies...in fact if someone hadnt bought me a copy of the movie..I wouldnt own it. But yeah I dont think it was really the best thing for the "community" But alas I did see the movie a couple of times..and unfortunately have a copy....but it doesnt mean I really like it..
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